North Stand Construction Discussion

[Tim of the Oak]

Must be. There isn't an actual 'waiting list' unlike at other clubs so they must have just gotten the match day member figures. Even if only a quarter of those 120k wan and ST that is still 30k people. Not a good sign for me as I'm a low points member who wants one, not evene sure if they will put them on sale. Shows the North stand expansion is desperately needed and soon after that the east and Colin bell too.

I agree with your analysis and hope you manage to get a season card.

I know at least a dozen people looking for a season card and the demand is there. I managed to sort one new season card for a member of our OSC Branch in 308 but new season cards are like rocking horse doodoo. FWIW, I couldn’t work out how to renew my brother’s season card because every time I tried the system wanted to remove my direct debit so I will be sorting his tickets on a match by match basis.

 

[Keeper!]

If we had anything like 120,000 waiting for season tickets the club would be looking to build a new stadium or an even bigger revamp/expansion that is now taking place.

I am certain there is a big demand for tickets but nowhere near the reported figure.

 

[jrb]

Firstly the story is in the Daily Mail/Fail/United.
Secondly there is no source to the story.
Thirdly the Journalists are Nick Harris & Alex Miller.(why does it take 2 Journalists to write such a small article?)

After a brief mention of City in the headline the article goes into the possible expansion of Old Trafford or a new stadium, the Architects Populous who are designing the new stadium, and then about City expanding the capacity of the Etihad by 7000.

I really wouldn’t take much notice of the article. It’s pretty much a croc of shite. But if you want to read the article, the link is below.

Shocking number of United and City fans on season-ticket waiting lists

IN THE MONEY: United recently appointed Populous, the planners behind Tottenham's stadium, to consider options for an expansion of Old Trafford to increase the capacity.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[richards30]

Firstly the story is in the Daily Mail/Fail/United.
Secondly there is no source to the story.
Thirdly the Journalists are Nick Harris & Alex Miller.(why does it take 2 Journalists to write such a small article?)

After a brief mention of City in the headline the article goes into the possible expansion of Old Trafford or a new stadium, the Architects Populous who are designing the new stadium, and then about City expanding the capacity of the Etihad by 7000.

I really wouldn’t take much notice of the article. It’s pretty much a croc of shite. But if you want to read the article, the link is below.

Shocking number of United and City fans on season-ticket waiting lists

IN THE MONEY: United recently appointed Populous, the planners behind Tottenham's stadium, to consider options for an expansion of Old Trafford to increase the capacity.

www.dailymail.co.uk

The rags will get fuck all done for years and the swamp looks a mess, as does klanfield

 

[BlueMoonday]

It would be good if the club could soon announce their plans on how they're going about releasing new STs for the N stand.

I appreciate they will first need to sort out existing ST relocations but would be good if they implement some form of criteria as well for a potential waiting list.

 

[Centurions]

It would be good if the club could soon announce their plans on how they're going about releasing new STs for the N stand.

I appreciate they will first need to sort out existing ST relocations but would be good if they implement some form of criteria as well for a potential waiting list.

They've barely broken ground yet, your sooner may not be along for awhile yet.

 

[waspish]

It would be good if the club could soon announce their plans on how they're going about releasing new STs for the N stand.

I appreciate they will first need to sort out existing ST relocations but would be good if they implement some form of criteria as well for a potential waiting list.

When will the new stand be finished?

 

[blueparrot]

If we had anything like 120,000 waiting for season tickets the club would be looking to build a new stadium or an even bigger revamp/expansion that is now taking place.

I am certain there is a big demand for tickets but nowhere near the reported figure.

It’s an impossible number to know. Only thing anyone can know is the number of Cityzen matchday members. Many may not want a S/C , May be quite a few ,possibly overseas, members that gat it just for the welcome pack or to be part of the club. In that case I think 120,000 matchday members is quite possible worldwide. As I posted earlier reckon around 60,000 go to games regularly.

 

[BlueMoonday]

They've barely broken ground yet, your sooner may not be along for awhile yet.

I agree it's way off.

The club are being shady about the prospect of any new STs being released for next season.

Providing some form of incentive may soften the blow for Cityzen members paying £58 to £67 for A PL game.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Firstly the story is in the Daily Mail/Fail/United.
Secondly there is no source to the story.
Thirdly the Journalists are Nick Harris & Alex Miller.(why does it take 2 Journalists to write such a small article?)

After a brief mention of City in the headline the article goes into the possible expansion of Old Trafford or a new stadium, the Architects Populous who are designing the new stadium, and then about City expanding the capacity of the Etihad by 7000.

I really wouldn’t take much notice of the article. It’s pretty much a croc of shite. But if you want to read the article, the link is below.

Shocking number of United and City fans on season-ticket waiting lists

IN THE MONEY: United recently appointed Populous, the planners behind Tottenham's stadium, to consider options for an expansion of Old Trafford to increase the capacity.

www.dailymail.co.uk

The article is probably nonsense JRB but there is little doubt they we have unprecedented demand for tickets.

 

[jrb]

The article is probably nonsense JRB but there is little doubt they we have unprecedented demand for tickets.

Not doubting that Tim.

Hence why we all agreed the stadium should have been expanded years ago when City had the opportunity.

As it stands, it’s going to take at least 2 years to expand the North stand, the stadium capacity will be reduced (in the planning docs), and Pep probably won’t be manager by the time the stadium expansion is completed.

What City should do is put the large LED advertising boards into storage for 2 seasons and put back the 1000 seats they’ve removed.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Not doubting that Tim.

Hence why we all agreed the stadium should have been expanded years ago when City had the opportunity.

As it stands, it’s going to take at least 2 years to expand the North stand, the stadium capacity will be reduced (in the planning docs), and Pep probably won’t be manager by the time the stadium expansion is completed.

What City should do is put the large LED advertising boards into storage for 2 seasons and put back the 1000 seats they’ve removed.

I agree with all that JRB

 

[Invisible Man's Bandage]

I'm sorry to crush the hopes of those who have been waiting to get a SC for years but this is how I think it will play out.

I was one of the many thousands who relocated into SS3 when it opened as I was already fed up with paying over £700 in ES3 then. I reckon the club were shocked at how many moved. However at that time I'm pretty certain that more or less all the vacated seats were allocated as SCs for other supporters. When the extended NS opens existing SC holders will get the opportunity to relocate so let's say 5000 out of the 7000 additional seats will be taken by these people. The seats remaining will be corporate and non SC only. This then, in theory, means that there will be 5000 seats to be allocated for full SCs elsewhere. Unfortunately that isn't what will happen. A small proportion will maybe be allocated as full SCs, a far larger number will be issued as Silver and the rest will just be sold on a match by match basis.

The outcome will be that there will be a very small net increase (if any) in full SCs but the proportion of full SCs in relation to the overall capacity will be less that it is now. The direction of travel is clear in that the club is unhappy with what a large number of existing SC holders are paying (hence the introduction of Silver) and this will be a great opportunity to do something about that.

 

[Centurions]

I agree it's way off.

The club are being shady about the prospect of any new STs being released for next season.

Providing some form of incentive may soften the blow for Cityzen members paying £58 to £67 for A PL game.

Shady? The capacity will reduce slightly when they start the build proper, there won't be any new ST's for a couple of seasons at least.

 

[Manncity]

heard from a reliable source that there is an embargo on all new season tickets until the new north stand is completed.

 

[Del_Bosque]

If there are any new ST's before the NS extension opens it will be those Silver ones

 

[mainestand]

The only new season tickets I can envisage will be a handful of corporate ones, once the extension is completed I imagine that people will be able to relocate, but the seats vacated will become match day tickets sold to the new found fans, as they will make a hell of a lot more money out of them than they do the regular season ticket holder. There’s a new 400 bedroom hotel in this new development, so you can imagine the cost of a match package in there, with double, triple and family rooms you could be looking at the best part of 1000+ fans each match having to be supplied with a ticket, then the once in a season even lifetime visitor will probably spend 200-300 quid each in the store along with food and drink on top, this being at every home game, how much do you spend per match? See where I’m coming from the legacy fans are not coughing up enough till match by match whereas the new fans/tourists of the future will happily do so, along with happily snapping up all the boycotted tickets for the community shield. We’ve always said how united have been doing this for years, well we’re even going to put them 20 more years behind us off the pitch as well as on it once the nort stand extension is completed.

 

[Gone for a Burton]

If we had anything like 120,000 waiting for season tickets the club would be looking to build a new stadium or an even bigger revamp/expansion that is now taking place.

I am certain there is a big demand for tickets but nowhere near the reported figure.

I’ve seen concept plans for an 85000 capacity stadium achieved by building the east and west stands out to envelop the spirals with a fourth tier.

Looks practical.

 

[1964]

Not doubting that Tim.

Hence why we all agreed the stadium should have been expanded years ago when City had the opportunity.

As it stands, it’s going to take at least 2 years to expand the North stand, the stadium capacity will be reduced (in the planning docs), and Pep probably won’t be manager by the time the stadium expansion is completed.

What City should do is put the large LED advertising boards into storage for 2 seasons and put back the 1000 seats they’ve removed.

 

[OccupiedPalestineBlues]

I'm sorry to crush the hopes of those who have been waiting to get a SC for years but this is how I think it will play out.

I was one of the many thousands who relocated into SS3 when it opened as I was already fed up with paying over £700 in ES3 then. I reckon the club were shocked at how many moved. However at that time I'm pretty certain that more or less all the vacated seats were allocated as SCs for other supporters. When the extended NS opens existing SC holders will get the opportunity to relocate so let's say 5000 out of the 7000 additional seats will be taken by these people. The seats remaining will be corporate and non SC only. This then, in theory, means that there will be 5000 seats to be allocated for full SCs elsewhere. Unfortunately that isn't what will happen. A small proportion will maybe be allocated as full SCs, a far larger number will be issued as Silver and the rest will just be sold on a match by match basis.

The outcome will be that there will be a very small net increase (if any) in full SCs but the proportion of full SCs in relation to the overall capacity will be less that it is now. The direction of travel is clear in that the club is unhappy with what a large number of existing SC holders are paying (hence the introduction of Silver) and this will be a great opportunity to do something about that.

I don’t recon that you’ve crushed anyone’s hopes IMB.
As you very honestly mentioned, it‘s how you ‘think’ it will play out, and nobody gets crushed by a guess because they ain’t that heavy.

Your guess might prove to be absolutely accurate (if I had to guess it would be my guess too) but, if that is the case, it will be the reality that proves the burden.