Oasis reunion

[Nightmare Walking]

They've sold their entire souls just for a few more quid when they're already very wealthy by most people's standards. When they 'represent" an area where many live from hand to mouth.
The merchandise will bring in millions more anyway. The mard arses.

Is Class War still going?

I don't think they have sold their souls. I think they have behaved how 99% of people with their background would have.
I come from Newton Heath and probably have a similar background and upbringing to the Gallaghers (Newton Heath is a lot more destitute than Burnage).
I guarantee that the vast, vast majority of uneducated people, from working class backgrounds, in Manchester, who have grown up with nothing, would have screwed everyone for as much as they can get. Just like the Gallaghers have.
They will sort their mates out and fuck everyone else. I have seen this attitude on a far smaller scale, every single day of my life.
How the Gallaghers have behaved is exactly how I would have expected them to behave. They have not sold out.
They are not middle class, educated intellectuals, like Tony Wilson, who believe in a grand utopia. Wilson died because he could not afford the cancer treatments which may have extended his life. All because of his moral crusade and beliefs. He could have been a very rich man.
The Gallaghers have ensured nothing like that will ever happen to them. I don't blame them for that. They have just taken advantage of the system. It's the system which is wrong and that needs regulating.
Whether you believe how the Gallaghers have behaved is right or wrong, is irrelevant . For me, they have behaved exactly how I would have expected. You can take the boy out of Manchester.

20 years ago, everyone loved the fact that the Gallaghers did not give up a fuck. Now that people have realised that it is not an act and they really do not give a fuck, people are up in arms as the attitude they all loved has now cost them a lot of money.

 

[BlueHammer85]

I would say it’s Noel that only agreed to this tour on the basis he makes as much as possible, he can’t be arsed and doesn’t really want to be back with his brother again - just wants to get it over and done with for maximum pay out. Is my feeling anyway.

 

[tedmak]

They know from the DM tour that Liam just finished Co op live was worth the money he went to a lot of trouble to make the show worth it for fans Standing in a public park is not the same.
They know from record sales Liam and Noel both know who the true fans are. They have fan clubs as well
Oasis put out a statement any resale tickets for more than face value would be cancelled laughable because they don’t mind the official site doubling the price.

I think the dymanic pricing is just a smokescreen in a way. They have been guaranteed a significant amount and the ticket revenues have to secure this. If they didnt do dynamic/variable pricing. they would just have to put the flat rate prices up to get the same money.
What annoys me is the lack of clarity on pricing - just tell people beforehand it will be dynamic. (How many million man hours were wasted on Saturday morning? Never mind people that wanted to use Ticketmaster for non-Oasis purposes).
The other matter that is getting smotherered by the dynamic pricing discussion is the fees. They are effectively part of the ticket price so should be disclosed.

Am not a fan of Oasis but happy for people who have got tickets (I know loads). My main concern is where this will lead in other events.

 

[Giovinco]

I would say it’s Noel that only agreed to this tour on the basis he makes as much as possible, he can’t be arsed and doesn’t really want to be back with his brother again - just wants to get it over and done with for maximum pay out. Is my feeling anyway.

He didn’t look too happy on Saturday to be fair

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

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The combination of a race horse and oasis ticket scam is the most pikey thing I’ve ever seen in my life

 

[Cellarite]

Cos Noel is a Tory and he really doesn’t do empathy. Liam seems more down to earth. Let me know if it’s ok for me to have an opinion. Thanks.

Absolutely fine for you to have your opinion. As it is for me to have my own. And my opinion is that your opinion on this is a load of old shite. You don't know them but seem to know what they're like. Thanks.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

They've probably got PR people telling them exactly how to handle this. Say nothing will maybe be the strategy. Wait for some other news to wipe this off the front page.

It’s not going away so they need to say something really / and yeah it’ll need to be coordinated hence Liam backing off the old MuskNet for a few days.

 

[117 M34]

I think the dymanic pricing is just a smokescreen in a way. They have been guaranteed a significant amount and the ticket revenues have to secure this. If they didnt do dynamic/variable pricing. they would just have to put the flat rate prices up to get the same money.
What annoys me is the lack of clarity on pricing - just tell people beforehand it will be dynamic. (How many million man hours were wasted on Saturday morning? Never mind people that wanted to use Ticketmaster for non-Oasis purposes).
The other matter that is getting smotherered by the dynamic pricing discussion is the fees. They are effectively part of the ticket price so should be disclosed.

Am not a fan of Oasis but happy for people who have got tickets (I know loads). My main concern is where this will lead in other events.

City will be doing it next.

 

[tedmak]

City will be doing it next.

Isnt that the case already? There are no set matchday prices and the prices move about a fair bit depending on who City play.

 

[Shaelumstash]

Is it ethical - no it's not.
Is it lawful - yes it is.
I'm still on the side of the customer has a choice - had enough people chosen NOT to pay those prices they'd have had to be reduced.
It's the way things are these days - look at God's own Club and the state of ticketing :(

Think you're potentially missing the point here.

I waited in the queue for 7 hours, looking for £150 tickets. When I eventually got to the front, the exact same ticket had been hiked up to £350.

I chose not to buy it.

At least half a dozen people I know experienced the exact same thing.

Had I known they were £350 from the off, I wouldn't have wasted 7 hours in the queue, because I know £350 is not a price I'd be willing to pay.

Other industries like airlines and trains, even Uber have "dynamic" pricing, and everyone accepts and understands that.

Clearly a train to London that gets you there for 8.30am on a Monday morning is going to be priced higher than a 2pm train on a Tuesday afternoon, because the demand is so much higher.

Everyone understands that, and accepts it.

As a consumer you have a choice - pay a premium for the most in demand time slot, or pay a cheaper price to go off peak.

You know the price you're being asked to pay before you get in the queue.

The difference with these gig tickets was, it was done under false pretence.

The overwhelming majority of people (including all the people I know who experienced it) had no clue the price would be more than doubled by the time they got to the front of the queue to buy.

It was underhand and exploitative.

And the difference with peak and off peak trains is, they're different services, offering different benefits. There's a premium attached to the more attractive service. There's consumer choice.

With the standing tickets, whether £150 or £350, they are the exact same service. There is no consumer choice. Those who chose not to buy are not consumers.