Official Arsenal vs Manchester City FC Thread

modgeblue said:
NiceN Sleazy said:
Maybe we are waiting for the Hamburg game. League position is out of the window and the only thing we have left to play for is the UEFA cup. So maybe that is where all our priorities lie ?????

good shout hope your right

To be fair - had this been the CL we would have been through, 3-2 on aggregate. :)
 
bizzbo said:
terrible start by several individuals. couldnt pass or control the ball. bridge, kompany clearly not fit to play. individual mistake meant adebayor couldnt miss. conceding early against arsenal is usually fatal, but the first substitution clearly helped us. zab was excellent at lb, the team found some confidence. for the last twenty-five minutes of the fist half. we looked classy and dangerous on the break. sadly the second goal killed the game. narrowly offside, should not have stood. looked like some players didnt fancy running themselves into the ground with Hamburg coming up, collectively the team eased off. very low key in the end, but not a bad performance, despite some moments where we looked almost totally incompetent.

rob did work hard, zab, ned, de jong and dunne had good enough games. shaun was very good for a short while. bellamy made lots of runs but was never picked out with a good enough pass. gelson was not any sort of disaster. elano was his usual self, selfish and easy to knock off the ball, whilst being classy and doing a good enough job of keeping possesion. micah was agressive but at fault for the first goal. shay was probably the best performer on the day.

bottom line is that you cannot concede an early goal against arsenal. and if you concede another at the start of the second half, having worked hard to get any foothold in the game, you are going to lose.

Nicely summed up.
 
Felt sorry for Bellers today he was feeding off scraps and some poor poor passing. None of the through balls made it past the arsenal defence so you can't blame Bellers. For me he's always got a goal in his locker whwn he's given a chance. Haven't felt like this about a forward since Anelka left.[/quote]

yep agreed mate- few boys could learn something from his work ethic!
 
Poor second half, offered nothing going forward and they toyed with us for most of the match.

Away from home we have been nothing short of abysmal all season with one or two exceptions and that has cost us any meagre hope of finishing in 7th place.

Good that Newcastle lost the only saving grace on a poor day for the club with more injuries to key players.
 
I am sure the work ethic and desire will be there on Thursday, I'm convinced they are saving themselves for Hamburg, so long as they stay away from the Eros centre before the match :-)
 
we still have a decent chance of 7th. if wham keep winning, they will get it, but today was the hardest of our remaining league games, our result today was more or less expected and changes very little.
 
Agreed.

Anything out of today's game would have been a bonus.

Surprised we wnt with 3 up front away at Arsenal. We're too ambitious away from home.

It's no change as far as the fight for 7th is concerned. Spurs bubble has been burst whilst West Ham were always going to beat Sunderland. If we win our home games we could get 7th spot
 
mancity1 said:
Poor second half, offered nothing going forward and they toyed with us for most of the match.

Away from home we have been nothing short of abysmal all season with one or two exceptions and that has cost us any meagre hope of finishing in 7th place.

Good that Newcastle lost the only saving grace on a poor day for the club with more injuries to key players.
Arsenal got the huge boost of Adebayor, Fabregas and Walcott coming back today. Arsenal could win the Champions League this year because they have the boost of good players coming back at a key time. We had a patched up team, and that's no preparation for an away fixture at Arsenal
 
bizzbo said:
terrible start by several individuals. couldnt pass or control the ball. bridge, kompany clearly not fit to play. individual mistake meant adebayor couldnt miss. conceding early against arsenal is usually fatal, but the first substitution clearly helped us. zab was excellent at lb, the team found some confidence. for the last twenty-five minutes of the fist half. we looked classy and dangerous on the break. sadly the second goal killed the game. narrowly offside, should not have stood. looked like some players didnt fancy running themselves into the ground with Hamburg coming up, collectively the team eased off. very low key in the end, but not a bad performance, despite some moments where we looked almost totally incompetent.

rob did work hard, zab, ned, de jong and dunne had good enough games. shaun was very good for a short while. bellamy made lots of runs but was never picked out with a good enough pass. gelson was not any sort of disaster. elano was his usual self, selfish and easy to knock off the ball, whilst being classy and doing a good enough job of keeping possesion. micah was agressive but at fault for the first goal. shay was probably the best performer on the day.

bottom line is that you cannot concede an early goal against arsenal. and if you concede another at the start of the second half, having worked hard to get any foothold in the game, you are going to lose.

The perfect post mate, says it all!
 
oh shit 7 games left i hope we pull some good results in the PL would be bad if we finish 11th. stil if we win the uefa fuck it we will av a trophy. 1 question if we win the uefa cup do we qualifiy for next years???
 
NiceN Sleazy said:
I am sure the work ethic and desire will be there on Thursday, I'm convinced they are saving themselves for Hamburg, so long as they stay away from the Eros centre before the match :-)

Excuse really - Ars are playing on Tuesday and they werent saving themselves.
 
There wasn't a lack of commitment in the first-half. Possibly the sucker-punch right at the start of the 2nd half just killed off any real intensity from our performace, with Thursday in mind.
 
PowderBlue said:
NiceN Sleazy said:
I am sure the work ethic and desire will be there on Thursday, I'm convinced they are saving themselves for Hamburg, so long as they stay away from the Eros centre before the match :-)

Excuse really - Ars are playing on Tuesday and they werent saving themselves.
Surely Arsenal are still playing for a Chumps league position. We really don't expect to finish in a UEFA position in the league, so we should concentrate on our only chance of silverware rather than trying to beat Arsenal, which was a big ask. Another couple of years then we will have a squad capable of challenging in all comps!
 
kompany wasn't fit from the start so why tf was he playing hughes ffs. at least bellend finished the game and hopefully his glass knees will hold up long enough to stick one up the krauts on thursday.
 
let's have it right, City are nowhere near a top 4 outfit and were easily beaten by a fair, but not outstanding Arsenal team
 
darkside said:
let's have it right, City are nowhere near a top 4 outfit and were easily beaten by a fair, but not outstanding Arsenal team

Yep, we're exactly where we deserve to be in the league, we're a mid table side.
 
bluemoon32 said:
darkside said:
let's have it right, City are nowhere near a top 4 outfit and were easily beaten by a fair, but not outstanding Arsenal team

Yep, we're exactly where we deserve to be in the league, we're a mid table side.
Agreed, so are Hughes and his merry men really the guys to take us forward?
 
lionheart said:
bluemoon32 said:
darkside said:
let's have it right, City are nowhere near a top 4 outfit and were easily beaten by a fair, but not outstanding Arsenal team

Yep, we're exactly where we deserve to be in the league, we're a mid table side.
Agreed, so are Hughes and his merry men really the guys to take us forward?

I'm not sure really, i'd like to think he is.
Chopping & changing managers all the time will never work though, every new manager that comes in wants his own players & then we constantly have a scene of new players coming in, players going out, the newer players needing time to 'bed in' , then changing managers again & going through it all over again etc etc & managers never given time to actually build a squad.
If the owners feel that Hughes is the right man for the job then they have to give him the time to do it his way, we have a few bloody good players at the club but we are also hugely weak in a fair few positions & imo Hughes should be given a proper summer of transfer dealing to get in the team he wants.
I think we'll have problems with getting rid of certain players as they are on decent contracts & won't leave for clubs who won't pay them the same or more, how Hughes deals with that will show his managerial credentials.
We certainly need leaders in this team & hopefully that'll be put right in the summer, it's been a problem for us for quite some time.
All in all i'm not sure if Hughes is the answer but i can't think of too many names that would come in & do much better with the squad we've got. Like i said before, we have some decent players but a top 4/6 squad it aint.
 
Just got back early hours this morning, the groung was good but the perfomance was bad. But having said that we did have alot of injuries but we should of got robbie and elano more into the game from what i seen. If gelson would have scored instead of hitting the post, it woukld have changed the game.
 
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