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Ok then....Reasons why mark hughes should stay thread...
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OrigamiNinja said:How about because he is in a no win situation at the moment?
I have given Hughes some awful stick at times this season but I cant see how he can do anything different that wont lead to getting the stick he gets after every away performance.
The fact is he has a number of players there that when not playing at COMs simply do not have the stomach for any sort of a battle, they are great when we are at home and they are given time and space to do their party pieces but away from home when the pressure is on they do not want to know, the main culprit is Robinho without doubt yet what can Hughes do? If he drops the most expensive footballer in Premier League history and we get beat then the fans will be on his back saying "how can you leave Robinho out, sack Hughes hes an idiot" or he plays Robinho and we get beat the fans say "Robinho did nothing again, sack Hughes hes an idiot". Elano is another, people have been saying for weeks how great Elano is and how he should be playing yet he plays and the guy cant make a simple 5 yard pass nevermind completing any of his constant attempts at the Hollywood pass, yet again the blame falls on Hughes.
As I stated I have given Hughes as much stick as the next blue at times this season but I really dont believe that he can do much when no matter what decision he makes the outcome is its his fault!
I am also tired of the constant knee-jerk reactions, we had been on a nice little run and everyone is saying how great we are and how when we win on Saturday we are in 7th and only 6 points behind Everton. Saturday comes, we get beat and we are awful, all of a sudden the fixture list looks harder than it did 90 minutes earlier, we might still get relegated and Hughes should be sacked! Every week its the same, if we win we are a bunch of World beaters and if we lose we are the worst team to have ever played the game! Only at City!
Okay, you're all for giving him the sympathy vote. That it's not all his fault. Fair do's.
But why don't you answer the question? Which was why should Hughes stay? What does he bring to the club?
Answer that rather than copping out with a pitiful attempt at trying to be even-handed.
List the good things Hughes will bring to City now and in the future...
OrigamiNinja
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sweep said:So he should stay because he's in a no win situation? Say that out loud to yourselves "NO WIN", that is your justification for him remaining as manager of Manchester City? Brilliant!dannybcity said:OrigamiNinja said:How about because he is in a no win situation at the moment?
I have given Hughes some awful stick at times this season but I cant see how he can do anything different that wont lead to getting the stick he gets after every away performance.
The fact is he has a number of players there that when not playing at COMs simply do not have the stomach for any sort of a battle, they are great when we are at home and they are given time and space to do their party pieces but away from home when the pressure is on they do not want to know, the main culprit is Robinho without doubt yet what can Hughes do? If he drops the most expensive footballer in Premier League history and we get beat then the fans will be on his back saying "how can you leave Robinho out, sack Hughes hes an idiot" or he plays Robinho and we get beat the fans say "Robinho did nothing again, sack Hughes hes an idiot". Elano is another, people have been saying for weeks how great Elano is and how he should be playing yet he plays and the guy cant make a simple 5 yard pass nevermind completing any of his constant attempts at the Hollywood pass, yet again the blame falls on Hughes.
As I stated I have given Hughes as much stick as the next blue at times this season but I really dont believe that he can do much when no matter what decision he makes the outcome is its his fault!
I am also tired of the constant knee-jerk reactions, we had been on a nice little run and everyone is saying how great we are and how when we win on Saturday we are in 7th and only 6 points behind Everton. Saturday comes, we get beat and we are awful, all of a sudden the fixture list looks harder than it did 90 minutes earlier, we might still get relegated and Hughes should be sacked! Every week its the same, if we win we are a bunch of World beaters and if we lose we are the worst team to have ever played the game! Only at City!
I hereby propose that you are made the official spokesman of the Hughes In brigade, superb post.
The funny thing is I voted for him to be sacked in the last poll on here but at that moment in time the circumstances were completely different, we had just been beaten at WBA and the transfer window was almost upon us and I thought a new top name manager coupled with massive spending power in January could give us a kick up the backside. Even funnier is I never wanted Hughes in the 1st place yet here I am saying lay off the guy and the main reason for this is at this stage of the season I see absolutely no point in sacking him, a new manager cant come in and buy anyone and whilst the initial results may improve due to 'New Manager Syndrome' it gives a false reality. The ONLY new manager I want is Mourinho yet he will be impossible to get at this moment in time but he may be available in the Summer so I think we should wait it out.
My original post may have given the impression that I fully back Hughes, I dont. I dont see him being the man to take us to Premiership and Champions League glory but I also dont see anyone else available at the moment who can do this either. We need a truly World Class manager in charge to a) Take us to the top and b) Get the best out of the likes of Robinho but there are few World Class managers about and theres even less who would be willing to leave their clubs at this stage of the season whilst challenging for the Champs League to come to City.
For now I think we should lay off Hughes and let him complete his job until the end of the season, if people want rid of him then fair enough because our choice of new manager may be more impressive but for now his hands and Citys hands are tied so lets back him for the next 13 Premiership games even if they are his last at the club!
Numptyed
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You talk a lot of sense and sum up my feelings on the MH issue.OrigamiNinja said:sweep said:So he should stay because he's in a no win situation? Say that out loud to yourselves "NO WIN", that is your justification for him remaining as manager of Manchester City? Brilliant!dannybcity said:OrigamiNinja said:How about because he is in a no win situation at the moment?
I have given Hughes some awful stick at times this season but I cant see how he can do anything different that wont lead to getting the stick he gets after every away performance.
The fact is he has a number of players there that when not playing at COMs simply do not have the stomach for any sort of a battle, they are great when we are at home and they are given time and space to do their party pieces but away from home when the pressure is on they do not want to know, the main culprit is Robinho without doubt yet what can Hughes do? If he drops the most expensive footballer in Premier League history and we get beat then the fans will be on his back saying "how can you leave Robinho out, sack Hughes hes an idiot" or he plays Robinho and we get beat the fans say "Robinho did nothing again, sack Hughes hes an idiot". Elano is another, people have been saying for weeks how great Elano is and how he should be playing yet he plays and the guy cant make a simple 5 yard pass nevermind completing any of his constant attempts at the Hollywood pass, yet again the blame falls on Hughes.
As I stated I have given Hughes as much stick as the next blue at times this season but I really dont believe that he can do much when no matter what decision he makes the outcome is its his fault!
I am also tired of the constant knee-jerk reactions, we had been on a nice little run and everyone is saying how great we are and how when we win on Saturday we are in 7th and only 6 points behind Everton. Saturday comes, we get beat and we are awful, all of a sudden the fixture list looks harder than it did 90 minutes earlier, we might still get relegated and Hughes should be sacked! Every week its the same, if we win we are a bunch of World beaters and if we lose we are the worst team to have ever played the game! Only at City!
I hereby propose that you are made the official spokesman of the Hughes In brigade, superb post.
The funny thing is I voted for him to be sacked in the last poll on here but at that moment in time the circumstances were completely different, we had just been beaten at WBA and the transfer window was almost upon us and I thought a new top name manager coupled with massive spending power in January could give us a kick up the backside. Even funnier is I never wanted Hughes in the 1st place yet here I am saying lay off the guy and the main reason for this is at this stage of the season I see absolutely no point in sacking him, a new manager cant come in and buy anyone and whilst the initial results may improve due to 'New Manager Syndrome' it gives a false reality. The ONLY new manager I want is Mourinho yet he will be impossible to get at this moment in time but he may be available in the Summer so I think we should wait it out.
My original post may have given the impression that I fully back Hughes, I dont. I dont see him being the man to take us to Premiership and Champions League glory but I also dont see anyone else available at the moment who can do this either. We need a truly World Class manager in charge to a) Take us to the top and b) Get the best out of the likes of Robinho but there are few World Class managers about and theres even less who would be willing to leave their clubs at this stage of the season whilst challenging for the Champs League to come to City.
For now I think we should lay off Hughes and let him complete his job until the end of the season, if people want rid of him then fair enough because our choice of new manager may be more impressive but for now his hands and Citys hands are tied so lets back him for the next 13 Premiership games even if they are his last at the club!
To change now would be pointless, we need to take a step back at the end of the season and see where we are, I fail to believe we will get relegated or for that matter now finish top 8 after Stoke and Pompy, both games i had down as wins if we were to get top 7 finish. UEFA cup is the only thing to look forward to.
stonerblue
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We got beat away from home so the manager should go? Bollox.
It's obviously not twigged with some of the er, newer, members here but we do not have a divine right to win every game. One of the qualities that make a proper City fan is the ability to take defeat on the chin and move on. Doing an impression of a plastic and calling for the manager to be sacked is laughable (if not slightly embarassing)
You may say i have my Blue tinted specs on but i have to question those posters who only seem to contribute to the boards after we've lost.
It's obviously not twigged with some of the er, newer, members here but we do not have a divine right to win every game. One of the qualities that make a proper City fan is the ability to take defeat on the chin and move on. Doing an impression of a plastic and calling for the manager to be sacked is laughable (if not slightly embarassing)
You may say i have my Blue tinted specs on but i have to question those posters who only seem to contribute to the boards after we've lost.
stonerblue
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stonerblue said:We got beat away from home so the manager should go? Bollox.
It's obviously not twigged with some of the er, newer, members here but we do not have a divine right to win every game. One of the qualities that make a proper City fan is the ability to take defeat on the chin and move on. Doing an impression of a plastic and calling for the manager to be sacked is laughable (if not slightly embarassing)
You may say i have my Blue tinted specs on but i have to question those posters who only seem to contribute to the boards after we've lost.
Ah well, must've all gone home...
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How about.......Because we have to make a stand and back our manager as opposed to the prima donna superstars that arent performing because an element within the team dont wont Hughes as manager and would sooner have a Brazilian manager who is now looking for a way back intothe premiership. I realise it sounds like a conspiracy but Robbie didnt even do the basics on Saturday,it was embarrassing to say the least !
dannybcity
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sweep said:So he should stay because he's in a no win situation? Say that out loud to yourselves "NO WIN", that is your justification for him remaining as manager of Manchester City? Brilliant!
If we had have beaten Pompey how many fans on here would be blaming him for not playing Elano all season?
r.soleofsalford
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pretty much agree with all you saidOrigamiNinja said:How about because he is in a no win situation at the moment?
I have given Hughes some awful stick at times this season but I cant see how he can do anything different that wont lead to getting the stick he gets after every away performance.
The fact is he has a number of players there that when not playing at COMs simply do not have the stomach for any sort of a battle, they are great when we are at home and they are given time and space to do their party pieces but away from home when the pressure is on they do not want to know, the main culprit is Robinho without doubt yet what can Hughes do? If he drops the most expensive footballer in Premier League history and we get beat then the fans will be on his back saying "how can you leave Robinho out, sack Hughes hes an idiot" or he plays Robinho and we get beat the fans say "Robinho did nothing again, sack Hughes hes an idiot". Elano is another, people have been saying for weeks how great Elano is and how he should be playing yet he plays and the guy cant make a simple 5 yard pass nevermind completing any of his constant attempts at the Hollywood pass, yet again the blame falls on Hughes.
As I stated I have given Hughes as much stick as the next blue at times this season but I really dont believe that he can do much when no matter what decision he makes the outcome is its his fault!
I am also tired of the constant knee-jerk reactions, we had been on a nice little run and everyone is saying how great we are and how when we win on Saturday we are in 7th and only 6 points behind Everton. Saturday comes, we get beat and we are awful, all of a sudden the fixture list looks harder than it did 90 minutes earlier, we might still get relegated and Hughes should be sacked! Every week its the same, if we win we are a bunch of World beaters and if we lose we are the worst team to have ever played the game! Only at City!
kippaxblue76
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r.soleofsalford said:pretty much agree with all you saidOrigamiNinja said:How about because he is in a no win situation at the moment?
I have given Hughes some awful stick at times this season but I cant see how he can do anything different that wont lead to getting the stick he gets after every away performance.
The fact is he has a number of players there that when not playing at COMs simply do not have the stomach for any sort of a battle, they are great when we are at home and they are given time and space to do their party pieces but away from home when the pressure is on they do not want to know, the main culprit is Robinho without doubt yet what can Hughes do? If he drops the most expensive footballer in Premier League history and we get beat then the fans will be on his back saying "how can you leave Robinho out, sack Hughes hes an idiot" or he plays Robinho and we get beat the fans say "Robinho did nothing again, sack Hughes hes an idiot". Elano is another, people have been saying for weeks how great Elano is and how he should be playing yet he plays and the guy cant make a simple 5 yard pass nevermind completing any of his constant attempts at the Hollywood pass, yet again the blame falls on Hughes.
As I stated I have given Hughes as much stick as the next blue at times this season but I really dont believe that he can do much when no matter what decision he makes the outcome is its his fault!
I am also tired of the constant knee-jerk reactions, we had been on a nice little run and everyone is saying how great we are and how when we win on Saturday we are in 7th and only 6 points behind Everton. Saturday comes, we get beat and we are awful, all of a sudden the fixture list looks harder than it did 90 minutes earlier, we might still get relegated and Hughes should be sacked! Every week its the same, if we win we are a bunch of World beaters and if we lose we are the worst team to have ever played the game! Only at City!
Totally agree, we need to stick with it, you cant build anything overnight and the players need time to gel, be patient and it will come right, lets have a bit of a seige mentality and back the team all the way and see where we are at the end of the season.
Plenty I'd imagine, but I don't see how fans being pissed off about individual selection decisions is relevant to whether or not he should stay in charge. He should be judged primarly on results, and even if the results aren't all they could be, which they clearly aren't, then we should at least be seeing signs of improvement in our play, many of us are seeing the opposite.dannybcity said:sweep said:So he should stay because he's in a no win situation? Say that out loud to yourselves "NO WIN", that is your justification for him remaining as manager of Manchester City? Brilliant!
If we had have beaten Pompey how many fans on here would be blaming him for not playing Elano all season?
dannybcity
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sweep said:Plenty I'd imagine, but I don't see how fans being pissed off about individual selection decisions is relevant to whether or not he should stay in charge. He should be judged primarly on results, and even if the results aren't all they could be, which they clearly aren't, then we should at least be seeing signs of improvement in our play, many of us are seeing the opposite.
Because there's been a negativity surrounding Hughes since September, all this talk of him leaving can only be detrimental to the team, just look what happened when it became apparent that Sven was leaving.
Rammyblues
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I think he should stay, don't like him, didn't want him but I am getting a bit pissed off with forever seeing the squad change, sacked pearce, got Sven, sack Sven get Hughes, sack Hughes get ........................... Graeme Souness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
keemcfc
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because no one will want to take over at the moment as it is nowere near a transfer window, thats the only reason, even if he wins uefa cup or gets in to the top 4 in the prem, i think ADUG wont let him stay, they want a big name, and i THINK the players dont like playing for him (especially robbie,elano and MAYBE richards) i think we shoul keep him, but i THINK he will go.
keemcfc
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just look at what would happen if it became apparent that he was coming back? just a suggestion.dannybcity said:sweep said:Plenty I'd imagine, but I don't see how fans being pissed off about individual selection decisions is relevant to whether or not he should stay in charge. He should be judged primarly on results, and even if the results aren't all they could be, which they clearly aren't, then we should at least be seeing signs of improvement in our play, many of us are seeing the opposite.
Because there's been a negativity surrounding Hughes since September, all this talk of him leaving can only be detrimental to the team, just look what happened when it became apparent that Sven was leaving.
dannybcity said:sweep said:Plenty I'd imagine, but I don't see how fans being pissed off about individual selection decisions is relevant to whether or not he should stay in charge. He should be judged primarly on results, and even if the results aren't all they could be, which they clearly aren't, then we should at least be seeing signs of improvement in our play, many of us are seeing the opposite.
Because there's been a negativity surrounding Hughes since September, all this talk of him leaving can only be detrimental to the team, just look what happened when it became apparent that Sven was leaving.
Huge difference Danny, the person wanting Sven out owned the club.
1.618034
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Because changing managers every few weeks/ after one season etc. and so on.................................
glen quagmire
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think hughes would've faired better had we been skint! he builds solid teams look at blackburn all giants. with couple of exceptions in our home kit we look like the smurfs! sparky can not seem to handle todays modern prima donna players, we need a manager with some charisma a-la morinho or kk. AND CAN I JUST ADD BELAMY IS NOT A LONE STRIKER.
glen quagmire
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I 100% agree good post m8tyMCRJON said:OrigamiNinja said:How about because he is in a no win situation at the moment?
I have given Hughes some awful stick at times this season but I cant see how he can do anything different that wont lead to getting the stick he gets after every away performance.
The fact is he has a number of players there that when not playing at COMs simply do not have the stomach for any sort of a battle, they are great when we are at home and they are given time and space to do their party pieces but away from home when the pressure is on they do not want to know, the main culprit is Robinho without doubt yet what can Hughes do? If he drops the most expensive footballer in Premier League history and we get beat then the fans will be on his back saying "how can you leave Robinho out, sack Hughes hes an idiot" or he plays Robinho and we get beat the fans say "Robinho did nothing again, sack Hughes hes an idiot". Elano is another, people have been saying for weeks how great Elano is and how he should be playing yet he plays and the guy cant make a simple 5 yard pass nevermind completing any of his constant attempts at the Hollywood pass, yet again the blame falls on Hughes.
As I stated I have given Hughes as much stick as the next blue at times this season but I really dont believe that he can do much when no matter what decision he makes the outcome is its his fault!
I am also tired of the constant knee-jerk reactions, we had been on a nice little run and everyone is saying how great we are and how when we win on Saturday we are in 7th and only 6 points behind Everton. Saturday comes, we get beat and we are awful, all of a sudden the fixture list looks harder than it did 90 minutes earlier, we might still get relegated and Hughes should be sacked! Every week its the same, if we win we are a bunch of World beaters and if we lose we are the worst team to have ever played the game! Only at City!
I disagree tbh mate, i think if his tactics were correct and he picked the right team for each game then we would win and he would not be in a lose - lose situation.
I think its unfair to single out Robinho and Elano, nobody played well today and nobody showed any real fight today. Thats all down to Hughes, he has to install a work ethic and team spirit and he has got neither. This is unquestionably his team now. 12 players in for £118mil!! he is flat out of excuses.
The problems lie in the system which doesnt fit the personnel, we arnt getting the ball to Elano, RObinho, Ireland in areas where they can be effective. These players should be receiveing the ball in the final 1/3, not having to come deep and collect the ball or try and win high bals against players 5/6 inches taller than them!