mammutly
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Unknown_Genius said:
Neither can I.
I meant the proper Ireland.
Trap must be about 90
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Neither can I.
I meant the proper Ireland.
Trap must be about 90
DontLookBackInAnger
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Whats are the rags paying with timeshare in florida?????wilf9 said:I heard all this has kicked off because Milner is on his way to the rags at the end of the season.
lee-mcfc said:lol bullwilf9 said:I heard all this has kicked off because Milner is on his way to the rags at the end of the season.
DontLookBackInAnger said:Whats are the rags paying with timeshare florida?????wilf9 said:I heard all this has kicked off because Milner is on his way to the rags at the end of the season.
Mock me all you want, Rags will have money in the summer whether we like it or not. Milner is just the type of player that fergie goes for. we will see come the end of the season won't we.
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O'Neill reeks dippers.
If the rags get Milner they'll have a quality player.
If the rags get Milner they'll have a quality player.
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mammutly said:Unknown_Genius said:Northern? I can't see it personaly.
Neither can I.
I meant the proper Ireland.
Trap must be about 90
Trappatoni has signed a new deal, and apparantly rejected Juve to stay in charge of ROI. Plus, I can't see someone Northern Irish being in charge of Republic, it would be like a Scotsman in charge of England.
If Randy Lerner has told O'Neill there will be no/little money to spend in the summer, then I think O'Neill has somewhat reached the end of the road with Villa, where do you go from here? If United put in a big money bid for Milner, or Chelsea for Ashley Young, then they're gone, and reaching the top 4 becomes fantasy, and it will be much harder to win trophies. You need money in the modern game, and without that Villa just won't be able to keep up with the likes of Spurs and City.
mammutly
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Unknown_Genius said:mammutly said:Neither can I.
I meant the proper Ireland.
Trap must be about 90
Trappatoni has signed a new deal, and apparantly rejected Juve to stay in charge of ROI. Plus, I can't see someone Northern Irish being in charge of Republic, it would be like a Scotsman in charge of England.
Well he managed Celtic so he's Irish. The separateness is on the other side.
M22_blu
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On his way I reckon, every season villa seem to lose there way at this stage of the season they probaly need a manager who can motivate there players for a whole season not half a 1.
As for milner there's no chance he'll be going them red twats, if there's a sniff he might leave villa expect city, chelsea, spurs and probaly a few of europes top clubs after him and thats company they cant compete with in a financial sense. he's a top player, the only reason he isnt an england starter is because he isnt a top 4 player.
As for milner there's no chance he'll be going them red twats, if there's a sniff he might leave villa expect city, chelsea, spurs and probaly a few of europes top clubs after him and thats company they cant compete with in a financial sense. he's a top player, the only reason he isnt an england starter is because he isnt a top 4 player.
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wilf9 said:lee-mcfc said:lol bullDontLookBackInAnger said:Whats are the rags paying with timeshare florida?????
Mock me all you want, Rags will have money in the summer whether we like it or not. Milner is just the type of player that fergie goes for. we will see come the end of the season won't we.
Where is it coming from, Wilf?
DTeacher said:wilf9 said:Mock me all you want, Rags will have money in the summer whether we like it or not. Milner is just the type of player that fergie goes for. we will see come the end of the season won't we.
Where is it coming from, Wilf?
Asia + the £80 they still have fron Ronaldo, + Rooney money.
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this will not go down well in certain quarters, but what the hell.
IMO (and strictly in my opinion) o'neill has more going for him than hughes at the moment. with the greatest of respect, he is a far more engaging character who has genuinely over achieved in all of his jobs. he also has quite a few trophies to his name now. (3 scots titles, 3 scots cup titles, a scots league cup title and the two league cups with leicester). to be fair to hughes, his win record in the top flight of english football is superior, around 46% to 42%.
I saw some figures recently which made me rethink my appraisal of hughes's relative success at blackburn... admittedly he did improve their results greatly whilst there, but it's also true they were hugely underachieving prior to his arrival. when he took over, and for the length of his time there, they were consistently in the top 8 wage bills in the country. he left just as the the walker trust annuities shrunk, and if I'm not mistaken, quite a lot of playing contacts were coming to their end.
the difference between the two, personality and charisma aside, is that o'neill can point to his time at leicester and celtic.
that's why I think celtic would be the ideal job for MH. 3 good years there would do his reputation the power of good. the budget would be small but he would stand a very good chance of catching rangers up (they are in financial peril), and would probably get some high profile results on the european scene. at villa, he'd take over a very good squad, but one that will only get weaker in relation to the competition. he'd be hard pushed to finish top 6 and reach cup finals on a regular basis, so it would look like he'd achieved less than o'neill.
IMO (and strictly in my opinion) o'neill has more going for him than hughes at the moment. with the greatest of respect, he is a far more engaging character who has genuinely over achieved in all of his jobs. he also has quite a few trophies to his name now. (3 scots titles, 3 scots cup titles, a scots league cup title and the two league cups with leicester). to be fair to hughes, his win record in the top flight of english football is superior, around 46% to 42%.
I saw some figures recently which made me rethink my appraisal of hughes's relative success at blackburn... admittedly he did improve their results greatly whilst there, but it's also true they were hugely underachieving prior to his arrival. when he took over, and for the length of his time there, they were consistently in the top 8 wage bills in the country. he left just as the the walker trust annuities shrunk, and if I'm not mistaken, quite a lot of playing contacts were coming to their end.
the difference between the two, personality and charisma aside, is that o'neill can point to his time at leicester and celtic.
that's why I think celtic would be the ideal job for MH. 3 good years there would do his reputation the power of good. the budget would be small but he would stand a very good chance of catching rangers up (they are in financial peril), and would probably get some high profile results on the european scene. at villa, he'd take over a very good squad, but one that will only get weaker in relation to the competition. he'd be hard pushed to finish top 6 and reach cup finals on a regular basis, so it would look like he'd achieved less than o'neill.
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O ' Neill if ever there was a United Ireland team he would fit the bill as the boss prefectly and nobody from North or South of Ireland would complain about it.
If he goes I cant see him going back to Celtic again it will be a case of taking a step or 2 backwards for him. Saying that Liverpool job could be the 1 as they are deluded if they think Jose will turn up there. Depending on what he wants to do he wont be out of work long a lot of teams would want him. Some signings were a bit iffy but he has made Villa a stronger side during his time there.
If he goes I cant see him going back to Celtic again it will be a case of taking a step or 2 backwards for him. Saying that Liverpool job could be the 1 as they are deluded if they think Jose will turn up there. Depending on what he wants to do he wont be out of work long a lot of teams would want him. Some signings were a bit iffy but he has made Villa a stronger side during his time there.
bluemanc
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Villa fans have had enough of him anyway,i don't think many would want him for us, we will be in for a manager that does well in Europe i would think.
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bluemanc said:Villa fans have had enough of him anyway,i don't think many would want him for us, we will be in for a manager that does well in Europe i would think.
O Neill got Celtic to the final of the Uefa Cup 1 year getting beaten by Jose Mourhino's Porto side 3-2 in the final in Spain. So he has some decent results in Europe.
bluefandk said:The Fixer said:Haha was it not cook who wanted him out? seem to remember Dunne slagging cook off but not Hughes?
Cook just gets blamed when theres an unpopular decision taken, it was deffo Hughes who wanted rid, he had full control over transfers.
Cook's comment re "The name Richard Dunne not exactly tripping off the tongue" (in relation to attracting overseas fans) certainly didn't help though. And said when Dunne was the Captain of our Club.
As an Aston Villa fan I am kind of unsure of what to think of Martin O'Neills apparent departure. I really doubt he has left or will leave but if he did I wouldn't be too upset about it. He has done tremendous work building up a great young, british team however tactically he has not rotated the squad around enough, players like Reo-Coker and Delph has been sidelined for most of the season and as a result the team looks really tired and we don't have the drive that we had in the first half of the season.
The good news is that City will most likely take the place of Liverpool in 4th, something I am very happy about as half my family are City fans and the fact it will break up the shit that is the "Sky 4".
We don't want a manager to do well in Europe, that's absolute shite. What we want is someone who will bring attractive, flowing football to the club and a good rotation of players so that we may actually have a chance at getting fourth. Currently MON is playing a very negative, slow build up followed by floating in crosses hoping some large men will nod them home. The players we have, Young, Milner and Downing are brilliant players but they are being wasted playing such negative football.
He has made us a very good team and almost all of his signings were quality but tactically he will not take us to the next level.
The good news is that City will most likely take the place of Liverpool in 4th, something I am very happy about as half my family are City fans and the fact it will break up the shit that is the "Sky 4".
We don't want a manager to do well in Europe, that's absolute shite. What we want is someone who will bring attractive, flowing football to the club and a good rotation of players so that we may actually have a chance at getting fourth. Currently MON is playing a very negative, slow build up followed by floating in crosses hoping some large men will nod them home. The players we have, Young, Milner and Downing are brilliant players but they are being wasted playing such negative football.
He has made us a very good team and almost all of his signings were quality but tactically he will not take us to the next level.
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hmm where have i heard that before
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bizzbo said:this will not go down well in certain quarters, but what the hell.
IMO (and strictly in my opinion) o'neill has more going for him than hughes at the moment. with the greatest of respect, he is a far more engaging character who has genuinely over achieved in all of his jobs. he also has quite a few trophies to his name now. (3 scots titles, 3 scots cup titles, a scots league cup title and the two league cups with leicester). to be fair to hughes, his win record in the top flight of english football is superior, around 46% to 42%.
I saw some figures recently which made me rethink my appraisal of hughes's relative success at blackburn... admittedly he did improve their results greatly whilst there, but it's also true they were hugely underachieving prior to his arrival. when he took over, and for the length of his time there, they were consistently in the top 8 wage bills in the country. he left just as the the walker trust annuities shrunk, and if I'm not mistaken, quite a lot of playing contacts were coming to their end.
the difference between the two, personality and charisma aside, is that o'neill can point to his time at leicester and celtic.
that's why I think celtic would be the ideal job for MH. 3 good years there would do his reputation the power of good. the budget would be small but he would stand a very good chance of catching rangers up (they are in financial peril), and would probably get some high profile results on the european scene. at villa, he'd take over a very good squad, but one that will only get weaker in relation to the competition. he'd be hard pushed to finish top 6 and reach cup finals on a regular basis, so it would look like he'd achieved less than o'neill.
Very, VERY good post.
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TheLegendOfBerti said:top 4 change up then surely
hughes to villa too?
Think so!<br /><br />-- Fri Apr 02, 2010 11:21 am --<br /><br />
johnny on the spot said:O'Neill reeks dippers.
If the rags get Milner they'll have a quality player.
or us...