Our current badge. Why we are where we are today?

blue.behind.enemy.lines

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Having watched the video here, I never knew the "national" animal of the UAE and abu dhabi being an eagle. So strange how our badges eagle is so similar. Granted theres no way that could have been done with premonition of our aquisition by Sheik Mansour, but does anyone think ,apart from us being a well supporterd club with a great ground , that it possibly took the sheiks fancy? Would we be where we were now with out old badge? Maybe im barking up the wrong tree, but you never know sometimes its the littlest things.
 
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it really isn't a daft suggestion, although if say Newcastle/Liverpool had our badge they still wouldn't of been chosen.

We were primarily chosen because of Sport City and the landspace opportunity, and afraid to admit it but Rags have exposed the name Manchester around the world so much it made it easier for other markets to sit up and take note.
 
Well done Franny, we all thought you were an idiot at the time but this is a supreme example of targeting an investor and understood that those investors would win us a title so we could use three stars in advance.
 
Why Always Ste said:
it really isn't a daft suggestion, although if say Newcastle/Liverpool had our badge they still wouldn't of been chosen.

We were primarily chosen because of Sport City and the landspace opportunity, and afraid to admit it but Rags have exposed the name Manchester around the world so much it made it easier for other markets to sit up and take note.


Agree.
 
yankcitizen76 said:
It's the eagle. Gotta be the eagle.


The Eagle has been used in symbolism by many great empires, nations, organisations and sports clubs for centuries and displaying it on our current badge was a masterstroke by Franny Lee, plus of course it has a link to Manchester:

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That Abu Dhabi bird is a falcon actually...But his wife are all keen on symbolism being an artist and everything so it sure helps if he wants to watch a game instead of moving the palace lawn.
 
it's a Golden Eagle isn't it? The City Crest bird from the Manchester Coat of Arms I mean....
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from the Council website

Manchester City Council crest in to the future

History of Manchester's crest
To approach the problem of how Manchester's Crest should look in the twenty first century, we felt it was necessary to examine what made up the elements of the crest, where they had come from and what they actually meant. To just simplify and modernise is not enough; anything new has to have meaning and value.

Over a period of two months we examined the councils archives in Manchester Central Library. We also examined the original documentation of the granting of the city's shield in the College of Arms in London. We also felt it was essential to make an overview of what other cities employ both in the United Kingdom, but across Europe and the world.

Manchester can trace its heraldic routes back to the 13th century, when Roger de Grelley was first issued with a crest. In 1301 when Manchester was granted its first cahrter which gave its townspeople certain rights and privileges, the feudal lords the de Grelley family simply applied their own shield. This shield is described as 'Gules three bendlets enhanced or.', which simply translates as on a red shield three diagonal stripes in gold. Heraldry allows interpreation and so many variations of this can be found. A popular myth is that the three Bendlets or stripes represent the three rivers, but no historical evidence supports this view.

The significant change in Manchester's Crest happened when Manchester was granted Borough status in 1838. Four years later in 1842 the city was granted a coat of arms in two stages. The first was the adding of the ship above the shield to represent Manchester's trade links to the world. Again this does not represent a ship on the ship canal; the canal did not exist until the latter 19th century, and it rarely featured sailing ships of the kind represented in the original crest. Above the crest was placed a helmet (Helm) with ribbons (Mantle). On top of this was placed a globe and on this were placed bees, which represent industry. Below is the motto of the Borough 'Concilio et Labore'. This translates as 'wisdom and effort'. Very shortly afterwards the supporting mythical creatures were added. On the right (Heraldically) is the silver or white Heraldic antelope with a collar and chain wrapped around the body. The chain is gold and is used to represent industry. On the left is a gold lion with its face towards the viewer. On its head is a red castle; the castle may be a reference to the Roman fort at Castlefield from which the city originated. The roses upon both the lion and the antelope are references to the county of Lancashire. The Antelope and Lion are derived from the coat of arms of Henry IV (of the House of Lancaster).

For over 120 years this description as laid out in the Borough's formations, were the basis of many different interpreations which can be seen around the city. In 1958 the first official crest was issued by the City, this included the often missed Helm and Mantling. It added in the Mantling a Golden Eagle on a Crown. The Eagle was included to represent the importance of the Aero Industry and the crowns represent the enlarging community of Manchester.

Since 1958 this manifestation has been the basis of all developments. Certain elements have been removed; the Golden Eagles have been removed, the chains on the Antelopes. Fundamentally though it represents what was described in the original 1842 charter. The problems are that in many uses now the amount of information shown is simply too great. Whilst on ceremonial examples, such as the mayors chain or architecturally it is possible and even desirable to show the entire crest, in many every day uses it neither reproduces well, nor expresses the cities forward looking approach.

As we examined all the elements of the crest we drew the conclusion that the most basic and elementary part of the design was the crest itself. This alone represents the original Manchester, but also is naturally streamlined and distinctive. Whilst heraldic elements such as the Unicorn remain important descriptive parts of the crest, they are not unique to the city. The crest and its arrangements of stripes is much more unique and distinctively Mancunian.

Such simplicity means that it can be effectively used in multiple medias at a range of sizes without losing its distinctive qualities. Whilst the complicated and elaborate crest from the 1840s will always be distinctively heritage, the crest on its own is timeless and modern.
 
I like city of manchester crest better than the currant badge .I could never understand why we had 3 stars on the badge it makes more sense now we have won 3 titles.
 
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There's even a ship in the middle!
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And the Barclays logo (he put billions into them too).
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danburge82 said:
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There's even a ship in the middle!
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And the Barclays logo (he put billions into them too).
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he sure likes his birds :)
 

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