Owen Coyle

[intheknow!]

He would be a great manager for Aston Villa. Bigger club than Bolton but just outside the Elite.

Another rising star is Gus Poyet. The job he is doing at Brighton is really good. I think he's formed a real bond with club as well. They are going to be promoted to the Championship and have built the new 'American Express Stadium'. It's funny how some people come to England and really settle here yet others don't. Poyet son even plays for the England Under 16's.

 

[SpiritofBurnden]

If he had stated that as his reason for not going to Celtic it would've been fair enough, but he didn't. He categorically stated that the reason he turned them down was so he could finish the job he started with Burnley and see through their first premiership season. Instead he left when Burnley were in a bad run of form, just as the transfer opened and then took Wilshere who he had lined up to come to Burnley to bolton with him.

He had no control over the timing of the job offer from BWFC. The job wouldn't have been open at the end of the season so he had a choice, either leave Burnley or join Bolton. If he'd stayed and Burnley had gone down, he might now be out of a job. Are you seriously suggesting that he should have turned down a bigger club with better players?

While we're at it, how do you work out that the job 'What Holloways done at Blackpool completely overshadows what Coyle did at Burnley'? Coyle got Burnley promoted and to the League Cup semi-final in his first full season with them. He also did it on a similar budget to Blackpool's.

 

[SkyBlueLion79]

I don't mind him. I think he's got loads of potential & could be the next great Scottish Manager. I think along with Gus Poyet & Roberto Di Matteo they could all end up doing very well for themselves in the near future in my opinion.

 

[TheMidnightClaret]

If he had stated that as his reason for not going to Celtic it would've been fair enough, but he didn't. He categorically stated that the reason he turned them down was so he could finish the job he started with Burnley and see through their first premiership season. Instead he left when Burnley were in a bad run of form, just as the transfer opened and then took Wilshere who he had lined up to come to Burnley to bolton with him.

He had no control over the timing of the job offer from BWFC. The job wouldn't have been open at the end of the season so he had a choice, either leave Burnley or join Bolton. If he'd stayed and Burnley had gone down, he might now be out of a job. Are you seriously suggesting that he should have turned down a bigger club with better players?

While we're at it, how do you work out that the job 'What Holloways done at Blackpool completely overshadows what Coyle did at Burnley'? Coyle got Burnley promoted and to the League Cup semi-final in his first full season with them. He also did it on a similar budget to Blackpool's.

But he wouldn't have been fired from Burnley and out of a job, even upon relegation. Yes he should have turned them down. He preached loyalty to his players and repeatedly stated that he would see out the season through with Burnley, he didn't. Most Burnley fans were aware that he would move on to bigger things. It wasn't because he left, it was the way he left that was the problem.

Similar Budget? Burnley had around double the attendances of Blackpool in their promotion season and had paid in access of 1 million for a few players as well as having a wage cap of £15,000 a week as oppose to £10,000. When they did go up they let Coyle sign a record £3,000,000 playeras well as giving him over £5,000,000 to spend in the transfer market coupled with several earning near the self imposed wage cap. Compare that to what Blackpool have had to spend and what their wage bill is and you'll see that it is factually correct when I say what Holloway has done significantly dwarfs Burnley and Coyles 'shoestring budget'.

 

[leighton]

He had no control over the timing of the job offer from BWFC. The job wouldn't have been open at the end of the season so he had a choice, either leave Burnley or join Bolton. If he'd stayed and Burnley had gone down, he might now be out of a job. Are you seriously suggesting that he should have turned down a bigger club with better players?

While we're at it, how do you work out that the job 'What Holloways done at Blackpool completely overshadows what Coyle did at Burnley'? Coyle got Burnley promoted and to the League Cup semi-final in his first full season with them. He also did it on a similar budget to Blackpool's.

But he wouldn't have been fired from Burnley and out of a job, even upon relegation. Yes he should have turned them down. He preached loyalty to his players and repeatedly stated that he would see out the season through with Burnley, he didn't. Most Burnley fans were aware that he would move on to bigger things. It wasn't because he left, it was the way he left that was the problem.

Similar Budget? Burnley had around double the attendances of Blackpool in their promotion season and had paid in access of 1 million for a few players as well as having a wage cap of £15,000 a week as oppose to £10,000. When they did go up they let Coyle sign a record £3,000,000 playeras well as giving him over £5,000,000 to spend in the transfer market coupled with several earning near the self imposed wage cap. Compare that to what Blackpool have had to spend and what their wage bill is and you'll see that it is factually correct when I say what Holloway has done significantly dwarfs Burnley and Coyles 'shoestring budget'.

Burnley made a profit on his big signing when they sold Steven Fletcher to Wolves so his signings during his time there was decent so whatever he spent during that time he would of maybe recouped most of the money he was given.

 

[TheMidnightClaret]

Burnley made a profit on his big signing when they sold Steven Fletcher to Wolves so his signings during his time there was decent so whatever he spent during that time he would of maybe recouped most of the money he was given.

It's irrelevant what they sold him on for. My point was that Coyle did have some decent funds, especially when compared to what Holloway has had to spend. To even suggest Holloway and Coyle had comparable budgets is laughable.

 

[Project]

He got Burnley to the Premier league - I'm not sure how he owes them anything. He moved to further career and he has done.

 

[SpiritofBurnden]

Burnley made a profit on his big signing when they sold Steven Fletcher to Wolves so his signings during his time there was decent so whatever he spent during that time he would of maybe recouped most of the money he was given.

It's irrelevant what they sold him on for. My point was that Coyle did have some decent funds, especially when compared to what Holloway has had to spend. To even suggest Holloway and Coyle had comparable budgets is laughable.

You said Burnley spent around £1M for 'a few players' in their promotion season but conveniently overlooked the fact that Blackpool spent £500,000 on Charlie Adam alone in their promotion season...

 

[TheMidnightClaret]

You said Burnley spent around £1M for 'a few players' in their promotion season but conveniently overlooked the fact that Blackpool spent £500,000 on Charlie Adam alone in their promotion season...

No. I said Burnley spent over £1m on a few players each not around £1m in total. They more than doubled Blackpools record signing several times. In their promotion season I don't think they even outlayed a million on transfers. Charlie Adam made up a large chunk of that money. Burnley roughly tripled what Blackpool spent in their promotion season. I'll stick to what I said. Coyles and Holloways budgets were a mile apart.

 

[SpiritofBurnden]

Burnley roughly tripled what Blackpool spent in their promotion season. I'll stick to what I said. Coyles and Holloways budgets were a mile apart.

I would suggest that Blackpool's net spend on transfers was bigger than Burnley's. Burnley spent the money they got from selling Kyle Lafferty to Rangers. The money Blackpool spent on Charlie Adams was a provided by their owner as far as i'm aware.

 

[briand]

He would be a great manager for Aston Villa. Bigger club than Bolton but just outside the Elite.

Another rising star is Gus Poyet. The job he is doing at Brighton is really good. I think he's formed a real bond with club as well. They are going to be promoted to the Championship and have built the new 'American Express Stadium'. It's funny how some people come to England and really settle here yet others don't. Poyet son even plays for the England Under 16's.

I disagree about Coyle. Still a young man in managers terms and I think he will be at a top club job sooner or later. If Mancini is to go at the end of the season and Mourinho stays at Real then Coyle would be my next choice. I know it won't be a popular choice but that's just me!!!!

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

After the pathetic surrender monkey performance which has epitomised Mancini's reign i would take a cauliflower at the moment failing that Coyle would be great if not a big name player draw

 

[peoffrey]

After the pathetic surrender monkey performance which has epitomised Mancini's reign i would take a cauliflower at the moment failing that Coyle would be great if not a big name player draw

Mancini is infinitely more likely to be a success for City than Owen Coyle.

Someone next to me at the Bolton match this season said he wanted Martin O'Neill at City.

We are allowed to be a little more choosy now.

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

After the pathetic surrender monkey performance which has epitomised Mancini's reign i would take a cauliflower at the moment failing that Coyle would be great if not a big name player draw

Mancini is infinitely more likely to be a success for City than Owen Coyle.

Someone next to me at the Bolton match this season said he wanted Martin O'Neill at City.

We are allowed to be a little more choosy now.

This is the problem with English football, never given a young up and coming manager a chance. i have no doubt we wouldnt sign him but i would have anyone over Mancini at the moment

 

[briand]

Mancini is infinitely more likely to be a success for City than Owen Coyle.

Someone next to me at the Bolton match this season said he wanted Martin O'Neill at City.

We are allowed to be a little more choosy now.

This is the problem with English football, never given a young up and coming manager a chance. i have no doubt we wouldnt sign him but i would have anyone over Mancini at the moment

Who is ur choice Boyblue!!

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

This is the problem with English football, never given a young up and coming manager a chance. i have no doubt we wouldnt sign him but i would have anyone over Mancini at the moment

Who is ur choice Boyblue!!

I just said anyone. I dont make the decisions and ultimatly i may have to live with this patetic mug next season but i will support the team.
If i climbed off the fence i would say Mourinho but when we miss out on Champs League next season it wont be an option. Im not blowing things out of proportion as i have studied this hard and we have not played well since xmas, say what you want about last week but Wigan could of put Sunderland to the sword last wknd

 

[briand]

Who is ur choice Boyblue!!

I just said anyone. I dont make the decisions and ultimatly i may have to live with this patetic mug next season but i will support the team.
If i climbed off the fence i would say Mourinho but when we miss out on Champs League next season it wont be an option. Im not blowing things out of proportion as i have studied this hard and we have not played well since xmas, say what you want about last week but Wigan could of put Sunderland to the sword last wknd

No i actually agree with you mate. Our form is bad since xmas and the final nail in his coffin for me is the fact he doesn't seem to be able to motivate the players. Once a manager is no longer able to motivate his players then thats that. Time for replacing.

Mourinho
Coyle
Andre Villas Boas
Martin O Neill

And in that order. That would be my choices.

 

[peoffrey]

Mancini is infinitely more likely to be a success for City than Owen Coyle.

Someone next to me at the Bolton match this season said he wanted Martin O'Neill at City.

We are allowed to be a little more choosy now.

This is the problem with English football, never given a young up and coming manager a chance. i have no doubt we wouldnt sign him but i would have anyone over Mancini at the moment

Mancini is a young up and coming manager. He's mid forties which is young compared to Dalglish, Hodgson, Redknapp etc.

Saying you'd have anyone at the moment is throwaway. You wouldn't want Pearce or Keegan back.

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

This is the problem with English football, never given a young up and coming manager a chance. i have no doubt we wouldnt sign him but i would have anyone over Mancini at the moment

Mancini is a young up and coming manager. He's mid forties which is young compared to Dalglish, Hodgson, Redknapp etc.

Saying you'd have anyone at the moment is throwaway. You wouldn't want Pearce or Keegan back.

No i wouldnt want Pearce back you are right, i also wouldnt have Eriksson, Keegan, Hughes but thats because they all lost there job for the same reason and Mancini keeps his inspite of this. although sacking him now would probably be the wrong move. I really hope Juve come in so he leaves and we dont look like bad guys