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You really think teams in the premier league could do that? Just because teams try to stop them doesn't mean they can.

Plenty teams have handed them a beating? Really? And besides we are talking about now not years ago. The premier league is as bad as its been in years so it's hardly a good comparison

Atletico have just struggled to beat PSV twice.

In the Prem, that's dropping 4 points vs a lower mid table side, same as the kind of results which have cost us, & the rags.
 
Atletico have just struggled to beat PSV twice.

In the Prem, that's dropping 4 points vs a lower mid table side, same as the kind of results which have cost us, & the rags.
PSV the same side who knocked out united. Madrid weren't great in that tie but still got through. Doesn't mean they aren't a great team by not scoring. Teams can drop any points anywhere doesn't prove anything. Atletico are still one of the best teams in Europe.

Spain has 3 in quarters of champions league and 3 in Europa. That says it all when it comes to quality of the leagues.

Premier league is in a poor state right now and it needs to change going forward as right now we don't have enough teams who can even compete in Europe. Which is the true measurement of quality of a league
 
Think most people who study football would disagree. The difference with pique playing and not is noticeable. Can't think of any football expert who wouldn't laugh at the thought of taking otamendi over pique. He's just not near that level

I think many people who 'study' football just rely on stats or what Guilleme Ballague tells them rather than take different situations into account, such as the FACT that Mascherano plays cb for Barca & would frighten any Premier League team to death if played regularly in that position here.
 
I think many people who 'study' football just rely on stats or what Guilleme Ballague tells them rather than take different situations into account, such as the FACT that Mascherano plays cb for Barca & would frighten any Premier League team to death if played regularly in that position here.
Maybe English media, that's the whole problem for years the stupid English media made English fans think the premier league is the best in the world when really it's not that close.

Is it balanced and competitive? Without a doubt. Is it good quality? Not really

I'm confident it can be with the new TV deal
 
PSV the same side who knocked out united. Madrid weren't great in that tie but still got through. Doesn't mean they aren't a great team by not scoring. Teams can drop any points anywhere doesn't prove anything. Atletico are still one of the best teams in Europe.

Spain has 3 in quarters of champions league and 3 in Europa. That says it all when it comes to quality of the leagues.

Premier league is in a poor state right now and it needs to change going forward as right now we don't have enough teams who can even compete in Europe. Which is the true measurement of quality of a league

Yes the very same team who beat a not very good Utd, who have got many results in Europe when 'not very good' as have City who are 'not very good' yet beat Bayern last season & finished above Juve. You're not getting this are you ?

The Premier League has few if any sides of the quality of Barca or Real & 19 sides who will all take points off them at some time

That's why it's tougher than the other leagues.
 
Maybe English media, that's the whole problem for years the stupid English media made English fans think the premier league is the best in the world when really it's not that close.

Is it balanced and competitive? Without a doubt. Is it good quality? Not really

I'm confident it can be with the new TV deal

That's why I never mentioned 'quality'.

I mentioned 'competitive'.

That's why it's the best league.
 
That's why I never mentioned 'quality'.

I mentioned 'competitive'.

That's why it's the best league.
So poor quality makes it the best league? So if you have a bunch of average sides that's what makes it great? Cmon

It's great to watch a league where you have no clue what happens but that doesn't mean it's a great league. It's just a competitive one
 
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