jimmygrimblesboots
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Great , so as long as Pep's is here we have a great chance , thanks for the good news
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Pep signs new contract until 2025 (p 1262)
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Great , so as long as Pep's is here we have a great chance , thanks for the good news
jimmygrimblesboots
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Only comparitivelyDeluded and detached from reality.
Bought them young and they stayed for years, we aren't in the business of buying to sell for profit at a later date but that being said we received fees for some you have listed as free.I agree with those who say we need to gut midfield and finally sort the left back and striker(s) out. In order to do that, we need a big chequebook as the quality of player we need is not cheap. We need to bring in 3 or 4 world class players - we're talking Mbappe, Benzema, Griezman, Felix etc here not more players for the future.
However, there's a big elephant in the room for me in how we've let the squad evolve.
For the quality of the players we've had over the last decade, we've made next to nothing on them. Obviously there's been the poor signings like Mangala, Bony etc who didn't work out, but the top class players we've had have mainly left for nothing or for pitiful amounts:
Hart - free, Kompany - free, Lescott - free, Zabaleta - free, Silva - free, Yaya - free, Nasri - £3m, De Jong - £3m, Barry - free, Fernandinho - likely free, Aguero - likely free. Balotelli - £18m, Bellamy - free, Dzeko - £10m. Milner - free, Tevez - free, Clichy - free. Johnson - £10m.
That squad now would win the title today, no problem and is better than the one we have now. But we made less than £50m or so from them once they left the club. It's not sustainable. We either have to make other clubs pay more - not easily done because of the wages - or we look at selling them before they go too far over the hill. Players like Walker and KdB are 30+ or so now and at the moment we could probably get £160m now for the pair... or nothing in 3-4 years time. Bernardo Silva was probably worth £100m a couple of years ago, but we'd not get anywhere near that now.
Now I'm not saying we should be selling players in their prime, but we have to start planning all this a bit better. It's no good holding on to a player until they retire as they play less games and lose their legs. We need to look at moving them on to bring some money back into the team so we can reinvest in their younger replacement.
What more do you want from the likes of VK- 8m, 11 years, Zab- 6m, 10 years, Silva-24m 10 years and the others we had them until they were passed their best Yaya, Fernie, Lescott, Hart (we got 3.5m btw) Balotelli.
Out of all those who left, who really improved their career, Milner the traitorous gobshite who you couldn't have got to sign a contract if you tried and the other was Dzeko who wanted first team football and I agree the fee for him was ridiculous due to the number of goals he scored but probably due to the length of his contract?
Tevez (we got 12m btw) Also had a decent spell at Juventus.
As for selling players off when they reach 30 that is just ludicrous, would you have wanted Silva or VK to have left then?
hilts
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He Literally said yesterday we will have to find a new way to play and it's MY responsibility to find solutions.
Last year we scored 100+ goals. This year we are not scoring goals. Something is stuck . The team and coach are going through rough patches. It happens and I hope they overcome it.
That usually means we are going to buy another 5 foot 7 technical midfielder:-)
SilvaisSkyBlue
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Great , so as long as Pep's is here we have a great chance , thanks for the good news
Same as you fella, hope we try and get Mbappe when he is available.
Just remember that article and IMO he will end up in Spain, but then football finances in that country are on its arsé so maybe we will be one of the few who can actually finance that type of deal.
Pep plans have become so predictable to the opposition and every team seems to have a way to counter them.
Except one - Pep keeps asking for 5 subs but does not even use 3 and even the one's he does seem to be reluctantly around 80 minute mark.
I would have thought he would be campaigning to remove the sub rule asking all to use only starting eleven through the game come what may.
Except one - Pep keeps asking for 5 subs but does not even use 3 and even the one's he does seem to be reluctantly around 80 minute mark.
I would have thought he would be campaigning to remove the sub rule asking all to use only starting eleven through the game come what may.
MillisleBlue
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That usually means we are going to buy another 5 foot 7 technical midfielder:-)
Who'll play a couple of games, get injured, be out for months, then come back as half the player he should have been.
Akpowell
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Its since his new number two has been here
He Literally said yesterday we will have to find a new way to play and it's MY responsibility to find solutions.
Last year we scored 100+ goals. This year we are not scoring goals. Something is stuck . The team and coach are going through rough patches. It happens and I hope they overcome it.
After the restart last season we were scoring lots of goals. In fact I remember people pointing out that we were scoring more than usual. That pesky new assistant was with us during that run.Its since his new number two has been here
BlueMoonRisin’
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Pep has to start playing our academy players sooner than later otherwise there is no point in having an academy, especially an academy like ours. Any manager can spend big money on players and Pep has squandered a lot on several duffers. If I was Khaldoon I wouldn't allow Pep another penny unless he has given our youngsters a chance to play in meaningful games. And I'd start by dropping Rodri for Tommy Doyle against Burnley. Great managers manage to integrate youth with experience without much of a difference in performances and results. All Guardiola has done this far has thrown big money at a problem.
The academy has been open almost 6 years now and only one player has broke into the first team and remained part of the squad. One player and that is Phil Foden and it took 72 minutes for Pep to bring on after scoring a brace for England! Foden is bang on form for England yet still cannot get a regular start for us!
Seeing as this season is regarded as a transitional period I think Pep has to give youth a try before reaching for the chequebook yet again in either buying the ready made product or buying someone else's up and coming players.
Although Pep Guardiola is a brilliant tactition and man manager it has always been with the benefit of having a huge transfer kitty to buy players. I want to see him successfully integrate our academy players into the first team squad and nurture them into world class players. That truly is the mark of an exceptional manager and something that is lacking thus far in Guardiola's managerial career.
The academy has been open almost 6 years now and only one player has broke into the first team and remained part of the squad. One player and that is Phil Foden and it took 72 minutes for Pep to bring on after scoring a brace for England! Foden is bang on form for England yet still cannot get a regular start for us!
Seeing as this season is regarded as a transitional period I think Pep has to give youth a try before reaching for the chequebook yet again in either buying the ready made product or buying someone else's up and coming players.
Although Pep Guardiola is a brilliant tactition and man manager it has always been with the benefit of having a huge transfer kitty to buy players. I want to see him successfully integrate our academy players into the first team squad and nurture them into world class players. That truly is the mark of an exceptional manager and something that is lacking thus far in Guardiola's managerial career.