Phil Foden - 2019/20 Performances

Discussion in 'Player Performances' started by twosips, 23 Jul 2019.

  1. citizen_maine

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    Ah...hindsight
     
  2. karen7

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    Again,do you think it is sensible to guarntee first team action to a 17yr old who had never played in the first team(i think)and who out of our mega talented squad would you leave out for him? he is doing ok but just ok
     
  3. charlie9872

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    Casts massive doubt on that being a tummy bug then.
     
  4. Tugay One Cup

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    All it comes back to is either:

    A) "He wanted to leave us." Probably because he knew we wouldn't give him a chance.

    B) "He wouldn't be worth that much if he stayed with us." Probably because we wouldn't have given him a chance.

    Because of the complexity of the situation, I'd still find it hard to call it a mistake in isolation. But I think it says something about our approach which we have to address to either keep future international stars or sell them for what they're worth.
     
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    I had that chucking up bug recently,knocked me out for a week,he can't train if he is getting over a stomach bug
     
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    No I don't, no one is guaranteed time. What we need to do is foster an environment where mega talented youngsters like him, like say Phil Foden, will reasonably expect to be given a shot if they stay and work for it, even when it isn't guaranteed, which we haven't done and which is why people come into this thread and worry about Foden's playing time only a month into the season. Focusing on the specifics of why Sancho left is a mistake because he didn't leave for one reason, he left because our track record in this area is shit and it doesn't seem like we're doing anything to fix it.
     
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    Sancho is one of the best young players in the world, a starter for the national team with a price tag of 120m+, Foden is a talented younger player with that potential but is unproven. The key difference is that Sancho left us and Foden stayed. This isn't even this particular case, we've seen this story play out for years now. We've not managed to successfully integrate one youth player as a consistent first team player, 'patience' when a player is good enough isn't an excuse anymore. The truth is the only reason Foden is still here is because he loves the club, no other elite youth player would be prepared to be here knowing the lack of opportunities they are afforded.
     
  8. cjn

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    Yes, hindsight. It's called learning from mistakes.
     
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  9. karen7

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    Kev said phil got more mins last 2 seasons that he got at his age,we are still getting our senior players fit after a shit pre-season and 8 of them being away in the summer,we are FIVE games in,it's sept,there is no need to panic about his minutes
     
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    He has been hyped to fuck,he is not worth 120m so let's ignore that,he is not on a level with any of our players who are worth that,let's be sensible,pogba sold for 100m because he was hyped to fuck and he has been shit for the rags,the price tag doesn't mean a lot
     

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