PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[halfcenturyup]

It ended at cas but premier clubs started the new Investigation not the premier

I checked. Both the UEFA and PL investigations were started at the back end of 2018. Pretty quickly, actually .....

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

But they wouldn't anyway though would they, either way? Don't think it means anything at all, sometimes silence is just silence and nothing more.

I was responding to the suggestion that the PL had claimed irrefutable evidence, which they plainly haven’t.

 

[Coatigan]

The charges are almost certainly a fishing expedition based on fuck all.

People keep saying this, to varying extremities.

But I just don't see how that can be the case, and I don't believe it.

To charge us to the extent they have, they Must have something to think they have enough and there is significant reaon there to do so.

That of course does not mean they are right, or their evidence/charges won't come undone and fall apart through the process and under rigourous challenge.

But I have never bought into this, they are just putting out what they can without any real thought or confidence in whether it has anything to it. Can't comprehend how that can be the case.

 

[citizen_maine]

People keep saying this, to varying extremities.

But I just don't see how that can be the case, and I don't believe it.

To charge us to the extent they have, they Must have something to think they have enough and there is significant reaon there to do so.

That of course does not mean they are right, or their evidence/charges won't come undone and fall apart through the process and under rigourous challenge.

But I have never bought into this, they are just putting out what they can without any real thought or confidence in whether it has anything to it. Can't comprehend how that can be the case.

UEFA thought they had enough

 

[Coatigan]

The thing I find hard to except is why only City. The fact that we are the only club with a 4 year investigation or more going on. Surely for the pl to be seen as honest and above board all pl clubs should be investigated to the same depth. If not than its clearly a witchhunt.

There have not been any allegations publicly brought up against other PL clubs. Once Der Spiegel published what they claimed was (hacked) evidence of fraudulent accounting, both Uefa and the PL had to investigate, given they both have ffp rules.

Uefa concluded theirs, CAS disagreed with their findings. The PL Could have at that point concluded theirs in line with the CAS findings, but they instead spent another 3 years investigating it and charging us.

Everton have recently been penalised, but not for failing FFP, not for trying to 'hide' it. I don't think the PL would go investigating all clubs, for not presenting accurate information, without some sort of allegation of wrongdoing first.

 

[Coatigan]

It ended at cas but premier clubs started the new Investigation not the premier

No, they started more or less concurrently. The PL one just carried on a further 2 or 3 years.

They Could have ended it after the CAS verdict, and applied the same publicly available interpretation of evidence as CAS. They didn't, either they think there is more in that, or they just don't agree with the CAS findings, like one of their own 3 members.

 

[mcfcphil]

People keep saying this, to varying extremities.

But I just don't see how that can be the case, and I don't believe it.

To charge us to the extent they have, they Must have something to think they have enough and there is significant reaon there to do so.

That of course does not mean they are right, or their evidence/charges won't come undone and fall apart through the process and under rigourous challenge.

But I have never bought into this, they are just putting out what they can without any real thought or confidence in whether it has anything to it. Can't comprehend how that can be the case.

It depends what the motivation is.

If the motivation is to charge and punish City for financial breaches then you’re right, it’s inconceivable they would do this without a substantial level of evidence / justification.

If the motivation is to cause reputation damage to City at the behest of other parties then it becomes quite conceivable they would lay the charges without substantial evidence / justification.

 

[Coatigan]

UEFA thought they had enough

Hence my 4th paragraph.

 

[Coatigan]

It depends what the motivation is.

If the motivation is to charge and punish City for financial breaches then you’re right, it’s inconceivable they would do this without a substantial level of evidence / justification.

If the motivation is to cause reputation damage to City at the behest of other parties then it becomes quite conceivable they would lay the charges without substantial evidence / justification.

I am not arguing there is no motivation or effort to damage reputation.

I am saying I don't believe they would go as far as they have just to do that, without thinking there is something there that is enough to stick.

I am basically arguing this idea that they Know they have nothing but are prepared to fail, just in an attempt to damage reputation. Or appease other clubs etc.

That's me. Others will disagree, and that's them.

 

[JewelZee]

Why would the pl risk their reputation and their brand in going after City being cleared by CAS ?

Personally I believe City are 100% innocent but for the life of me cant understand why the pl would risk coming after City

Reading what's going on with other clubs and possible failing of the ffp soon all clubs will be under a 4 year investigation, starting with rags, arsenal, Chelsea, forest, etc.

The pl will run out of money having to employ all these financial experts and lawyers

What risk? In their minds they tried to hold City accountable but City would have used financial and legal might to escape "justice". If the result of losing their case meant their management group would be thrown one by one off a 10 story building then tell me about the risk of flinging shit at the wall and hoping it sticks...

Tossing some of those twisted fuckers off a rooftop actually sounds like a decent idea...