I never said I did. I don't care what they think, but TS clearly do and it just seems to me to be an opportunity for Jordan to interrupt and interject. Perhaps this is the aim. I didn't get much out of it but each to their own.Why do you care about what TS listeners who don't support City think?
A lot of it was new to me. And that's with following this thread.
Etihad were loosing vast sums of money at the time and were supported by the Abu Dhabi executive committee their owners, its only in the last few years they have made profitsWhy would Etihad need Sheikh Mansour to pay the majority of their sponsorship contract when they were turning over billions of USD per annum? Looks like they can afford to pay it themselves which was confirmed at CAS.
This case is much more serious than the CAS case.It’s all well and good saying we will do it after the event but this isn’t our 1st rodeo. We were cleared at CAS and what has the fallout been from it? The clubs PR offensive was to allow all and sundry to run a completely different narrative. We have literally been slandered left, right and centre for the years following and the club have seemingly done nothing to stop it.
Instead it’s left to our “media fans” to go on these shows to defend us but it’s like lambs to the slaughter. That scouser on the Overlap shouts in the City fans face “because you cheated” and not only does nobody in the room pull her up on it, the editors of the show obviously think it’s fine and leave it in the final cut.
If this is all a result of our legal advice…maybe we should be more worried about the outcome of the case?
I agree with all this and especially your last line:Don't think this is a fair criticism of the club really.
When you are accused of what we are accused of, with all the potential consequences that would follow from a finding that the charges have been proven, you concentrate on defending yourself in that process. Of course you can and should state your belief that you are innocent (assuming you do believe this of course!).
But in terms of the PR battle, the starting point is that we have no realistic legal threat we can make against the "City are guilty" brigade. And they know that. Lots of people have said the club haven't done enough here, but I haven't seen a single realistic suggestion of things the club could have done that would actually have made a difference (I've seen suggestions of things the club could have done, but those things wouldn't have made a material difference to the coverage IMO). Say for example we tried to ban Carragher from the Etihad...that might feel great. But he can still comment on our games. And honestly that would only make things worse. It would just feed the "City are cheats" narrative.
All this is known to the club, who have legal and PR advice of the highest quality on tap. There are reasons that they have acted as they have.
The time for a PR offensive on this is after the result of the hearing, not before.
Not a chance Khaldoon has said in the past "we took a pinch" and it won't happen again By accepting the offer it would mean we accept our guilt also the absolute opposite from our stanceWe’d have snapped their hand off.
That scouse girl is incredibly stupid and doesn’t do herself any favours in the way she spoke on the Overlap. She represents the intellectually challenged, living in a black and white world of thinking. Making comments like City might ‘get away with it’ and that City have ‘cheated for the last 10 years’ just shows her ignorance and lack of flexibility in her thinking. Unless, she has seen, read and understood ( I mean seriously lol) the case documents her conclusions are based on nothing other than hatred and jealousy.It’s all well and good saying we will do it after the event but this isn’t our 1st rodeo. We were cleared at CAS and what has the fallout been from it? The clubs PR offensive was to allow all and sundry to run a completely different narrative. We have literally been slandered left, right and centre for the years following and the club have seemingly done nothing to stop it.
Instead it’s left to our “media fans” to go on these shows to defend us but it’s like lambs to the slaughter. That scouser on the Overlap shouts in the City fans face “because you cheated” and not only does nobody in the room pull her up on it, the editors of the show obviously think it’s fine and leave it in the final cut.
If this is all a result of our legal advice…maybe we should be more worried about the outcome of the case?
Mansour has no business interest in Etihad his half brother Ruler of Abu Dhabi Mohamed Bin Zayed Nahyan is the man in questionWeren't they losing billions at the time of the first sponsorship? Not that it really matters. They were funded by one of the richest governments on the planet. If they were short of 40 million, they have never needed Mansour to chip in with his petty cash.
Mansour has no business interest in Etihad his half brother Ruler of Abu Dhabi Mohamed Bin Zayed Nahyan is the man in question
So desperate for us to fail so they won't look as stupid as they areThat scouse girl is incredibly stupid and doesn’t do herself any favours in the way she spoke on the Overlap. She represents the intellectually challenged, living in a black and white world of thinking. Making comments like City might ‘get away with it’ and that City have ‘cheated for the last 10 years’ just shows her ignorance and lack of flexibility in her thinking. Unless, she has seen, read and understood ( I mean seriously lol) the case documents her conclusions are based on nothing other than hatred and jealousy.
100% this small fine or huge fine 1pt deduction or 100pt deduction we will always be called cheats it’s all or nothing. If they have offered us a deal (which I doubt) they know and Khaldoon knows we have them by the ballsNot a chance Khaldoon has said in the past "we took a pinch" and it won't happen again By accepting the offer it would mean we accept our guilt also the absolute opposite from our stance
I think he addressed the political pressure comments by saying it’s a funny way to sweep it under the carpet by letting it get this far with shit loads of media publicity.I'm surprised Stefan didn't bite back at the nation state/political pressure comments
This maybe explains it then,don’t sections of the media go on about with the thinly veiled racism,dont they all look the same..Mansour has no business interest in Etihad his half brother Ruler of Abu Dhabi Mohamed Bin Zayed Nahyan is the man in question
You seem to have an issue with Stefan, maybe you should go on the show and we can unpick your responses. It's up to him whether he goes on the show or not and does what he thinks best. He knows what he's walking into.They gave him a short time to answer and then as he was about to deal with SJ's points JW asked him a question about the APT case to further impede him.
Seems like you missed that.
Agree with this. While no **** should be saying “City have cheated” on a public platform ahead of the outcome, unfortunately we need to keep quiet until we know the outcome. If we get cleared of all the main charges then we can go after all those who said we were guilty/had cheated. I wouldn’t be letting any of the fuckers off the hook and I wouldn’t be surprised if City have compiled their own detailed dossier of all those who have clearly overstepped the mark, including the aforementioned scouse **** on The Overlap. I’d even go after RAWK and Red Cafe too, given that the moderating on both forums regarding this topic has been non-existent, which in turn has facilitated ever more extreme accusations and conspiracy theories.I agree with all this and especially your last line:
"The time for a PR offensive on this is after the result of the hearing, not before."
If we were to go on an attack at individuals or media outlets and then the outcome is that we get found guilty of some of the charges and receive a points deduction - we are going to look really bad and probably be quite vulnerable to some counter claim
I just hope that (assuming) when we are cleared then we grow a pair and don't allow this shite to continue unchallenged
Doubt itJust out of interest does Jordan have a look at this thread??
Jordan back to being a **** again and peddling conspiracy theories about the panel. I’d also like him to explain what the inconsistencies were in the witness statements given to CAS.
How Stefan manages to keep so calm in the face of such confrontational bullshit is beyond me!
You're the one missing the point pal.
The level being addressed on a national radio station was the mass audience that heard SJ slaughter City with his I'll informed nonsense and Stefan not being given time to respond.
Not much point Stefan having all these levels if he's too polite to chip in with counter arguments.
And I resent your pompous tone and patronising attitude. It's possible to care about innuendo and bullshit slinging and still understand the issues.
I feel like a legal guy who started lamping people who said confrontational things they disagreed with wouldn't get that far.