Not sure about how much interest this fiasco will have attracted to the constabularly, but it certainly seems that a number of deceitful bordering upon unlawful/ corrupt acts have taken place within the PL.
And if it could be shown that Masters acted unlawfully whilst exercising his role as CEO , by deliberately restricting Newcastle's sponsorship deals, then would that not constitute a criminal act ?
Perhaps GDM could advise, but presumably even that duplicitous **** and the PL aren't that fucking stupid ?
Depends on the evidence. It would have to be overwhelming which I don’t expect it to be.Not sure about how much interest this fiasco will have attracted to the constabularly, but it certainly seems that a number of deceitful bordering upon unlawful/ corrupt acts have taken place within the PL.
And if it could be shown that Masters acted unlawfully whilst exercising his role as CEO , by deliberately restricting Newcastle's sponsorship deals, then would that not constitute a criminal act ?
Depends on the evidence. It would have to be overwhelming which I don’t expect it to be.
A bit harsh calling GDM a duplicitous ****!Not sure about how much interest this fiasco will have attracted to the constabularly, but it certainly seems that a number of deceitful bordering upon unlawful/ corrupt acts have taken place within the PL.
And if it could be shown that Masters acted unlawfully whilst exercising his role as CEO , by deliberately restricting Newcastle's sponsorship deals, then would that not constitute a criminal act ?
Perhaps GDM could advise, but presumably even that duplicitous **** and the PL aren't that fucking stupid ?
It’s difficult to see any other outcome, but I don’t expect anyone to do bird.Thanks - I'm just desperate to see Masters and the other cunts at the PL absolutely destroyed .
I’ve been called worse!A bit harsh calling GDM a duplicitous ****!
To be honest some of it has a whiff of corruption. How can any CEO have private discussions with one group of shareholders about the financial affairs of another member. The Newcastle email shows at the very least he had conversations with ten other clubs about taking action to prevent investment at Newcastle. Did he include Newcastle in the loop? Also what is in the "disgraceful" emails Tolmie has mentioned. How much of this activity has been illegal. The ATP report suggests that Masters ignored his own legal advice and ended up with rules which breached competition law. Apparently Arsenal (who had big shareholder interest free loans) were tasked with drafting rules which had a direct negative financial impact on Newcastle and City.. And those rules breached competition law because they exempted shareholder loans. So who is going to investigate what has been going on at the Premier League?
RagI’ve been called worse!
It truly is ‘the tyranny of the majority’.Not sure about how much interest this fiasco will have attracted to the constabularly, but it certainly seems that a number of deceitful bordering upon unlawful/ corrupt acts have taken place within the PL.
And if it could be shown that Masters acted unlawfully whilst exercising his role as CEO , by deliberately restricting Newcastle's sponsorship deals, then would that not constitute a criminal act ?
Perhaps GDM could advise, but presumably even that duplicitous **** and the PL aren't that fucking stupid ?
@Pam once called me a rag. On the Isco thread, after the non-existent deal didn’t happen. Would have been about 8 years ago. I remember because it’s the only time.
It's a good job you don't hold a grudge.@Pam once called me a rag. On the Isco thread, after the non-existent deal didn’t happen. Would have been about 8 years ago. I remember because it’s the only time.
I was amused, but still ever so slightly annoyed at the time that I never got an apology.
But that was all a long time ago, and I was probably a bit overly strident with @Pam after that for a bit, which was a bit childish, so apologies.
I remember @M18CTID coming to my rescue on that thread. My hero!
uh oh…[…, and I was probably a bit overly strident with @Pam after that for a bit, which was a bit childish, so apologies.
You weren’t being serious. She was!uh oh…
<checks email for incoming small claims, blocks letterbox for foreseeable future, burns phone, fills out name change declaration, asks Ric for new username>
As others have said, he will be the fall guy and the true architects of this smear campaign will be protected.The only thing that will happen after the outcome of the 115 will be,that stooge masters will be fucked off along with other members of the premier league hierarchy,but nothing will change as it’ll be similar people put into positions of power and again vetted by the rags,red scousers and arsenal..
Poor Jonny stones. He has enough trouble with injures each season. Fair play to cool hand Khaldoon for sticking up for John in this instance -:)Am I wrong or do I correctly remember Khaldoon saying ‘people in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones’ rather ominously?
Stones have been thrown.
Thanks , I suppose I was just asking specifically if you thought the PL was incompetent?that because of its incompetence in enacting the rules correctly in the case of the APT system it had resulted in a lot of costs for all clubs in thsi instance. Ie this current shit show is down to them and not City?Do I think the PL is incompetent?
No.
Incompetent is too polite. The PL is a narcissistic establishment where the lunatics are running the asylum. Its sole purpose is to make money at the physical cost of the players, but in particular at the monetary and emotional cost of you and me, the everyday fan who just wants a level playing field and would rather not have to pay absurd amounts of money to watch our team whilst simulateously being treated like something that fell out the back of a dog if the club decides a different demographic -read wealthy 'tourists' who pay massively over the odds from resellers (who get the tickets and share the margins with people at the club) can make them more money (and then we wonder why we have to bring in fake 'ultras' to create an atmosphere).
The PL employs staff who'd immediately be fired if they worked at a decent corporation for being unfit to do their job. Look at the Leicester situation as an example. How the heck has the PL screwed that up? It's absurd. Some other team may end up going down this season because the PL fucked up the one fucking job they had to do which was run the game correctly. And the lawsuits will follow, no doubt about that.
Regarding the current APT lawsuit City brought, and the ongoing 115 case, to be honest I don't trust any of it that we'll get to the actual 'truth'. It's because football clubs' prime reason to exist is to make money and the PL is the supposed kingpin that makes that happen. And in such a closed, unregulated environment the chances are it'll all be corrupt as fuck as nobody wants to stop the gravy train and backhanders. Just look at how corrupt FIFA, UEFA, the IOC etc have all proven to be. All unregulated fiefdoms. The PL is the same, of that I have no doubt.
Personally I'd fuck the PL off and create a new league. Let clubs spend whatever they want, the one caveat being a strict limit on the amount of debt you can be in. Like actual debt, not some made up FFP bollocks rules.
Long answer I know, but you did ask for my opinion so here it is!