Policing for European Games

[Scaring Europe to Death]

I'm currently on a train from Lisbon to Faro so had a bit of time to think about last night and the subsequent frustration of being locked inside the stadium for 40 minutes, which when compared to Naples and Madrid (or even our previous visit to Lisbon) was relatively short.

However, there was some kind of medical emergency which resulted in a clearly distressed lady being allowed to leave

The bloke behind me was screaming about civil liberties, but there was absolutely nothing we could do about it.

Another thread is discussing the defeat at Ayresome Park in 84-85, and having attended virtually every game of that infamous season I'm well aware of the reasons why English football supporters gained such a notorious reputation.

However that was 40 years ago and nowadays your typical travelling club supporter just wants to see the game.

Yes, our idea of a "good time" might still involve smashed bottles and a few unsavoury songs in the local Irish bar, but this normally occurs on the night before the game and is usually contained by the local police.

I'm sure its the same for the other English clubs, but why are the fans of Real Madrid or Sporting Lisbon treated so much better when they come to Manchester?

Thankfully we still haven't played at Galatasaray, but even more irritating is the sense that the worst behaviour in recent seasons at the Etihad has nearly always surfaced in the away end at CL games, with Red Star Belgrade Dynamo Zagreb and Sparta Prague all bringing a fair proportion of balloons.

The English are always welcomed with open arms by the foreign tourist industries essentially because they recognise our numbers and spending power. However, this doesn't extend to their football policing.

Who actually makes these decisions and why were we treated so much better in Bratislava than Lisbon?

PS
I hope the lady is okay.

 

[Vic]

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The English are always welcomed with open arms by the foreign tourist industries essentially because they recognise our numbers and spending power. However, this doesn't extend to their football policing....

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See Lokeren!

 

[jrb]

I'm currently on a train from Lisbon to Faro so had a bit of time to think about last night and the subsequent frustration of being locked inside the stadium for 40 minutes, which when compared to Naples and Madrid (or even our previous visit to Lisbon) was relatively short.

However, there was some kind of medical emergency which resulted in a clearly distressed lady being allowed to leave

The bloke behind me was screaming about civil liberties, but there was absolutely nothing we could do about it.

Another thread is discussing the defeat at Ayresome Park in 84-85, and having attended virtually every game of that infamous season I'm well aware of the reasons why English football supporters gained such a notorious reputation.

However that was 40 years ago and nowadays your typical travelling club supporter just wants to see the game.

Yes, our idea of a "good time" might still involve smashed bottles and a few unsavoury songs in the local Irish bar, but this normally occurs on the night before the game and is usually contained by the local police.

I'm sure its the same for the other English clubs, but why are the fans of Real Madrid or Sporting Lisbon treated so much better when they come to Manchester?

Thankfully we still haven't played at Galatasaray, but even more irritating is the sense that the worst behaviour in recent seasons at the Etihad has nearly always surfaced in the away end at CL games, with Red Star Belgrade Dynamo Zagreb and Sparta Prague all bringing a fair proportion of balloons.

The English are always welcomed with open arms by the foreign tourist industries essentially because they recognise our numbers and spending power. However, this doesn't extend to their football policing.

Who actually makes these decisions and why were we treated so much better in Bratislava than Lisbon?

PS
I hope the lady is okay.

European away fans at the Etihad are kept in just as long. Especially clubs that have a large European Ultra following.

I went to Naples when City won 3-2. We were kept in for well over an hour after the match had finished. The riot police escorted us on to the waiting buses in the away end compound. It took another 40 minutes to drive around Naples, not through it, to get back to the original bus pick up point. By the time we got back it had gone midnight. At least it wasn’t as bad as the Istanbul coach park farce after the CL final.

 

[Shirley]

I recall somebody described it as the English disease..

 

[johnnytapia]

European away fans at the Etihad are kept in just as long. Especially clubs that have a large European Ultra following.

I went to Naples when City won 3-2. We were kept in for well over an hour after the match had finished. The riot police escorted us on to the waiting buses in the away end compound. It took another 40 minutes to drive around Naples, not through it, to get back to the original bus pick up point. By the time we got back it had gone midnight. At least it wasn’t as bad as the Istanbul coach park farce after the CL final.

4-2

 

[mexico1970]

I recall somebody described it as the English disease..

Probably our own parasitic press, hooliganism isn't solely in England or even just in Europe, young fuckers like a tear up anywhere they meet.

 

[jrb]

4-2

Correct. :-) I forgot about Sterling's late goal.

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[lancs blue]

I went to Naples when City won 3-2. We were kept in for well over an hour after the match had finished. The riot police escorted us on to the waiting buses in the away end compound. It took another 40 minutes to drive around Naples, not through it, to get back to the original bus pick up point. By the time we got back it had gone midnight. At least it wasn’t as bad as the Istanbul coach park farce after the CL final.

I went to Naples in 2011/12 when we lost 2-1 and I thought the policing operation was good compared to many other European trips I've made - no hassle at the entrances, more or less waved straight in from the bus park. Yes the extended trip to and from the port area was a pain but the direct route was never really an option as it would have meant travelling through some of the dodgiest parts of Naples.

 

[Fordyboy46]

I'm currently on a train from Lisbon to Faro so had a bit of time to think about last night and the subsequent frustration of being locked inside the stadium for 40 minutes, which when compared to Naples and Madrid (or even our previous visit to Lisbon) was relatively short.

However, there was some kind of medical emergency which resulted in a clearly distressed lady being allowed to leave

The bloke behind me was screaming about civil liberties, but there was absolutely nothing we could do about it.

Another thread is discussing the defeat at Ayresome Park in 84-85, and having attended virtually every game of that infamous season I'm well aware of the reasons why English football supporters gained such a notorious reputation.

However that was 40 years ago and nowadays your typical travelling club supporter just wants to see the game.

Yes, our idea of a "good time" might still involve smashed bottles and a few unsavoury songs in the local Irish bar, but this normally occurs on the night before the game and is usually contained by the local police.

I'm sure its the same for the other English clubs, but why are the fans of Real Madrid or Sporting Lisbon treated so much better when they come to Manchester?

Thankfully we still haven't played at Galatasaray, but even more irritating is the sense that the worst behaviour in recent seasons at the Etihad has nearly always surfaced in the away end at CL games, with Red Star Belgrade Dynamo Zagreb and Sparta Prague all bringing a fair proportion of balloons.

The English are always welcomed with open arms by the foreign tourist industries essentially because they recognise our numbers and spending power. However, this doesn't extend to their football policing.

Who actually makes these decisions and why were we treated so much better in Bratislava than Lisbon?

PS
I hope the lady is okay.

Don't forget Young Boys fans in that list

 

[East Level 2]

I recall somebody described it as the English disease..

Lots of references to "the English disease" in foreign media from the seventies onwards, yet European and South American grounds had moats and fences well before we had them here.