Political relations between UK-EU

[bluethrunthru]

Do you know why?
Do you believe this will continue?

until they have access to markets yes. It costs to land fish even the stuff you don't sell.

 

[west didsblue]

Do you know why?
Do you believe this will continue?

You said it wasn’t happening.

 

[BobKowalski]

And we are posting realities back, because all the major facets have been concluded with a trade deal, which gives tariff free access, no CM, no ECJ.
This has pissed you off something rotten and we now hear we have 'A shit
trade deal,' which is a comfort blanket to assuage the unpalatable fact that
you've been telling us for years that all that was totally impossible.
We now boil down to a small percentage of an industry that is miniscule towards GDP, one that will grow, because we can grow it, but still only small
in the scheme of things.
I have said that unless the EU start playing nicely about this, there will be a response, and eventually, they'll see sense as they did over NI, and backed down.
We'll see who is right.

The deal does not give us tariff free access. No one is pretending the deal gives us tariff free access. We used to have tariff free access, we no longer have tariff free access.

Good grief man, get a grip. This level of delusion is not healthy.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

I did say that you just seek that which you want to see
From that fascist Rag, the Mail, but at least they've lifted it from that
stinking plutocrat Murdoch's Rag, the Times.

Nobody is investing in an idle industry - where does the investment money come from?

Ministers finalise £100m package to revive British fishing fleet

The scheme was promised last month as the British government faced criticism by fisherman that it had compromised on important issues to finally secure a trade deal with the EU.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Is a bail out the same as investment?

See below.

 

[journolud]

See below.

Are you sure? It’s an advert saying use fun effects to break the ice. Are you giving me the come on?

 

[bluethrunthru]

I did say that you just seek that which you want to see
From that fascist Rag, the Mail, but at least they've lifted it from that
stinking plutocrat Murdoch's Rag, the Times.

Ministers finalise £100m package to revive British fishing fleet

The scheme was promised last month as the British government faced criticism by fisherman that it had compromised on important issues to finally secure a trade deal with the EU.

www.dailymail.co.uk

so its still only a promise thats a month overdue - it gives the Mail readers a semi with pictures of warships - but still doesn't answer the fundamental question. Who's buying the fish?

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Or the Med, the Baltic, eastern North Sea, western Irish Sea, North Atlantic, Bay of Biscay, southern English Channel. In fact everywhere outside our EEZ.

Yes, or go where I said. So, they can go to those places and help themselves,
they don't want ours, so we'll just keep our own waters as they've suddenly decided they're polluted.
I'm sure it won't be much of a problem for EU fishermen now that you've provided the solution to this nonsense, so us and the EU will probably shake on that, yes?

 

[metalblue]

Is a bail out the same as investment?

Isn’t that part of the CFP anyway? The industry is heavily subsidised

 

[west didsblue]

Yes mate. I honestly did. And would do it again. No corporation should ever hold sway over state policy. The EU didn’t reject it, Trump (probably by accident) did. But it’s not about it not getting signed it’s about the fact it was even being discussed. The EU should have walked away but they didn’t - and the only way I could show my displeasure to that was to vote leave.

I do acknowledge that the new CPTPP is the bastard offspring of TTIP and I watch it with interest and some concern.

All trade deals involve discussion of things that are unpalatable to one side until they’re thrashed out and agreement is reached. I stand corrected that Trump pulled out first but the EU decided not to resume discussions. Basing your vote in 2016 on a possible outcome of an unagreed deal seems a little odd particularly as our stated aim was to get our own deal with the US for which they would undoubtedly try to get the same clause in and we would have been in a much weaker position than the EU making it more difficult to refuse.

CPTPP is nothing to do with TTIP. It started as TPP until the US pulled out.