Premier League Games 25/26/27 August '18

Kokonut1307 said:
Unless Brighton score we will be playing catch up for now. Drawing against Everton after having a player unfairly sent off does not equal to an atrocious performance that we had today, where we deservedly drew.
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blue by birth said:
Considering the amount of possession that we have and the amount of times we have the ball in the opponent's penalty area it is obvious that we should get more penalties than we concede.
But in all honesty do you believe that we don't get more bad decisions against us than what would be considered fair.
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Very true so I would expect more penalties, but in a similar vein we might miss out on more decisions as were by attacking with involved in more contact in the opponents box which in reality will not always give us a penalty.

A bit like Pool today you could argue they have suffered an injustice, missing out on a clear pen, but thats the nature of being involved in more attacking areas. More decisions are likely to go against you.

Interestingly have a look at Arsenals pen stats for a posession based sides they concede as many pens as they receive.
 
If they play like that a few more times they will come a cropper.

Brighton had the best of the second half and should have got something from that game.
 
franksinatra said:
Interestingly there was an academic study of decisions last season by the University of Bath and over the past 8 years we have received more pens and conceded fewer than any other side. That data may give you a more objective view rather than what I can offer.
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Source? If the decisions were correct in the first place then it isn't an indication of bias especially since it still doesn't rule out City not being given enough correct decisions compared to any of the other top 6(I'll get to that).

If you can't provide a source, then I suspect this is the same bath university study conducted by ESPN titled "the luck index" which found Liverpool were the unluckiest team(hmmmm I have an itchy chin all of a sudden) in the PL last season(they still wouldn't have won the league and I challenge us even dropping 1 point given the decisions we had go against us).

However it was not based over the past 8 years only last season and it read like a marketing piece for Liverpool.

http://www.espnluckindex.com/methodology/

The research team at the University of Bath enlisted three trained coders who watched footage from every single game across the 2017/18 Premier League season

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A random sample of these incidents was ratified by former Premier League referee Peter Walton who had a deciding say over whether the outcome of those particular incidents was down to a team being lucky or unlucky.
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If that doesn't make you question the validity of this study alone then you are reaching far too hard to prove your point because for me that takes away all credibility in an instant.

The most penaltys given and least not give would also be at odds with "the hypothetical premier league", which adjusted for correct decisions if VAR was in place. The site might be down at the minute but I remember posting the points difference on one of bluemoon's threads on this very subject. It found over a 5 year span(up to 2016 I think) only West Ham faired worse than us in the whole PL with points dropped directly from incorrect decisions, I'd imagine penalties would be the type of decisions that result in the greatest swing in points. I believe the guy who ran that site was rag also according some so no bias in favour of City or West Ham.
 
Milner MOM, did 2 solid fouls with no booking, then hand balled it deliberately just outside the box and still didn’t get booked, and even gave the freekick away to Brighton that they fu**** up for Dippers to score from. One lucky Cnut today.
Does that mean all last season was for nothing as Livpool have won the champions after 3 games trophy
 
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