President Joe Biden

[lasereyes]

Fun fact-

Joe Biden's niece never had to write a book about how much of a piece of shit he is as a warning to Americans.

It's true. But his wife's ex-husband has plenty to say about him and how he and Jill apparently met.

 

[lasereyes]

All of our other elections are just popular vote. And yes, it's dumb that it is this way.

The electoral college was instituted to ensure all parts of the country had a say in the Presidential election. If you had a purely popular vote system, then a candidate could win by racking up huge margins in a few big states like California, New York, etc. I'm not saying it's a particularly good system - just giving the historical rationale which I don't find to be totally crazy.

 

[lasereyes]

You know for all the writing Fog has posted, he doesn't realise he's as brainwashed as every other NeoLib MSNBC/ CNN watching dogooder.

How can a constitution written for the intention of a White leader be equal in its distribution? How can any Black person believe in a national anthem designed to hold up and celebrate the power of the White man?

I know this is solid cos it's NEVER contested on here, so therefore the 'house' is built upon shaky foundations. When you can't acknowledge the system is lopsided, you will believe what you're told especially if you benefit from it.

When in a race, the person you're supposedly running with already has a 60 metre start, there's an issue of unfairness, right??

All the OTHER shyte he speaks of is the icing around the cake those people critique, unwilling to actually cut into it to see the substance. They love the look of it too much!

Since I like analogies try this as an overview:

How many times did you walk past the homeless person or cross the road or said you can't help them before you gave them a coin and went off home to your own bubble, feeling like you've done a good deed? Only the dogooder notices there's a real problem when the homeless person occupies their street as it's too close to home then.

It's always the quick fix to the ease the conscience rather than the prevention of homelessness for that homeless individual.

I'd ask if people like FISF supported reparations but I reckon I know the answer, but the problem is there's a groundswell beginning to voice this now. If NeoLibs want to help the disenfranchised, they'd seriously look at it, but they'd not be NeoLibs anymore.

And then there's this false notion of if Biden wins there's more chance of Progressives getting in.

Since Biden is not entertaining ANY Progressives in his would-be cabinet, it's going to be down to the people to vote them in down ballot as people are doing now, despite opposition from Dems (actively campaigning against them and losing on a more regular basis now) and the GOP.

So, as you can see, it doesn't matter who's the pres in that sense, so stop voter shaming, you deaf and blind NeoLibs.

We don't know this yet. It is highly likely there will be key positions for Sanders and Warren to name two.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

The electoral college was instituted to ensure all parts of the country had a say in the Presidential election. If you had a purely popular vote system, then a candidate could win by racking up huge margins in a few big states like California, New York, etc. I'm not saying it's a particularly good system - just giving the historical rationale which I don't find to be totally crazy.

I don’t either. The question really comes down to the weightings states have whether applied to the Electoral College or the number of House representatives. And the latter applies to state houses per county/district (the Assembly e.g. in California) too.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

We don't know this yet. It is highly likely there will be key positions for Sanders and Warren to name two.

I think Warren is an awful demagogue but I agree that she is an obvious choice for a greater role in a Biden administration — safe blue Senate seat, and for all its missteps the CFPB doesn’t happen without her and was in many respects sorely needed in the US. She was a dominant force in its creation. Of course since she endorsed Biden and is an ex-Harvard professor, certain Progressives likely see her as already too steeped in privilege and party machinery to be termed “progressive.”

 

[lasereyes]

I don’t either. The question really comes down to the weightings states have whether applied to the Electoral College or the number of House representatives. And the latter applies to state houses per county/district (the Assembly e.g. in California) too.

Yes this is a good point. In theory it is meant to be based on census counts, but in recent years, it has all become distorted by gerry-mandering. The GOP started this practice, but the Dems have followed suit in strongholds like California. It's anything but transparent.

 

[lasereyes]

I think Warren is an awful demagogue but I agree that she is an obvious choice for a greater role in a Biden administration — safe blue Senate seat, and for all its missteps the CFPB doesn’t happen without her and was in many respects sorely needed in the US. She was a dominant force in its creation. Of course since she endorsed Biden and is an ex-Harvard professor, certain Progressives likely see her as already too steeped in privilege and party machinery to be termed “progressive.”

Funny was discussing this with a friend today. I honestly don't see any good that has come from the CPFB. Just seems like one more government bureacracy. I dont see consumers being protected or benefitting in any way. I might be missing something in my bubble so interested in your thoughts.

 

[SebastianBlue]

The electoral college was instituted to ensure all parts of the country had a say in the Presidential election. If you had a purely popular vote system, then a candidate could win by racking up huge margins in a few big states like California, New York, etc. I'm not saying it's a particularly good system - just giving the historical rationale which I don't find to be totally crazy.

Unfortunately, the Electoral College actually allows candidates to win without getting a majority of the popular vote (as was the case in 2016)... or, technically, in a “perfect” scenario, even a quarter of it.

How To Win The Presidency With 23 Percent Of The Popular Vote

It can be done. How? Because of the Electoral College. In fact, through the years, the winner-take-all system the U.S. employs has skewed result after result.

www.npr.org

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

It's true. But his wife's ex-husband has plenty to say about him and how he and Jill apparently met.

Yeah, but did he raw dog a porn star while his wife was recovering from child birth?

Oops, wrong thread. My bad.

 

[lasereyes]

Unfortunately, the Electoral College actually allows candidates to win without getting a majority of the popular vote (as was the case in 2016)... or, technically, in a “perfect” scenario, even a quarter of it.

How To Win The Presidency With 23 Percent Of The Popular Vote

It can be done. How? Because of the Electoral College. In fact, through the years, the winner-take-all system the U.S. employs has skewed result after result.

www.npr.org

That's right- also happened famously in 2000. Which certainly doesn't sit right to any of us. But on the other hand, Trump got more votes in 89% of counties in 2016. Would it be reasonable for HRC to become President winning a plurarity of votes in just 11% of counties - purely because they happen to be urban centers with huge population densities? Ultimately, US is a union of states, each of which has its own state laws and state governments and the constitution decrees that all should have a say in the federal government election.