President Joe Biden

[mancity1]

He’s not powerless, and he’s not all-powerful. He’s in the executive branch. He can suggest, and gather support for, legislation, and then once passed, can sign it into law. In order for change to happen, those on either side of the debate must compromise. The problem with the NRA and its elected lackeys is the slippery slope argument that any control is a violation of 2A. We all need those on the red side of the aisle to come off this stance or little can happen. What else do you expect blues in either the legislative or executive to do? You can’t just complain that he’ll do nothing without understanding why nothing has been done. Biden doesn’t have the luxury of threatening reds with entrenched bases with support for an opponent unless they support his agenda. Maybe the last President to have that at all was Reagan — and that was the early 80s after Iran, finding the bottom in the Cold War, two recessions and interest rates in the mid-teens — in other words, everyone was unhappy.

You can’t blame Biden’s leadership here. It has to come from reds voluntarily or voters who toss them out. And there actually appears to be some bipartisan movement on this issue — politicians can read polls and polls on mandatory background checks and lifting age restrictions lean pretty hard one direction. And reds in purple districts are worried about blues leveraging lack of support for gun-law change in November which is why they are starting to come to the table (and maybe among a few of them, their common sense and/or moral sense kicked in). I don’t know that this time is different, but it feels a little different as a Yank whose seen six decades of debate on gun topics.

I’m not usually a conspiracy theorist BTW but I wouldn’t be surprised if the SC is holding back releasing the decision in NYSRPA v Bruen, which is likely to destroy concealed carry laws given this court’s bent. That plus Rowe being eviscerated is going to make them a lightning rod at precisely the wrong time — another reason reds may be more willing to come to the table this time round.

I haven't blamed him as you have read and your post should perhaps be directed to those that think he is powerless.

It's as you say up to the executive and legislative to come to together for a greater cause and often there is an unfortunate trigger point or points to enact some meaningful change for the better beyond the incidents themselves and their frequency.

Leaders that enact change for the better do so because they bring the majority along with them but I am not sure yet their is an appetite for change I hope their is and I don't care who happens to be in administration when it does.

Australia and NZ are two countries who have legislated for some of the changes the vast majority of Americans desire and that is an end to mass murder in their own country.

It hasn't stopped gun violence but has restricted access to weapons used in mass murders.

 

[Bigga]

I haven't blamed him as you have read and your post should perhaps be directed to those that think he is powerless.

It's as you say up to the executive and legislative to come to together for a greater cause and often there is an unfortunate trigger point or points to enact some meaningful change for the better beyond the incidents themselves and their frequency.

Leaders that enact change for the better do so because they bring the majority along with them but I am not sure yet their is an appetite for change I hope their is and I don't care who happens to be in administration when it does.

Australia and NZ are two countries who have legislated for some of the changes the vast majority of Americans desire and that is an end to mass murder in their own country.

It hasn't stopped gun violence but has restricted access to weapons used in mass murders.

You know, there's a glaringly obvious action that could happen that is just bypassed!

The 2A is the thing that is "difficult" to take action on, but not making the manufacturing of weapons! Not just 'banning', the whole making of them! There's enough out there, so why do people need even more?

The right to have a weapon will depend on what's available, so make them unavailable for sale! Really restrict the type of weapon allowed to be sold to the general public.

I'm not sure what's stopping this being enacted as that isn't a bipartisan issue and I'm sure that could be an executive decision.

Wasn't there a successful assault weapons ban that slowed down these daily 'thoughts and prayers' tragedies?? Who would allow this to have an expiry date?!

 

[west didsblue]

Are you more interested in Trump or do you actually have a view about gun control in the USA and what can be done to reduce the escalating number of people being shot in the USA.

I already know the answer but I am asking you to state your case.

Focusing on pasts presidents won't help the US nor your case whatever that may be.

if you want to stay hitched to living in the past go ahead I even think your man Joe might have moved on a tad but if he is powerless to do anything as some have suggested mere words are not even cold comfort.

the facts are that mass shootings and shootings in general are on the increase but you choose to ignore the only important issue that needs addressing.

unlike some I don't despair as much about the future of the US that remind me of climate warming doomsayers but it needs real leadership to change for the better but perhaps you don't even think that is required and the sun will explode in your lifetime.

This is a thread about Biden and you compared him to ALL previous presidents. I pointed out that comparison is unfair when it comes to his immediate predecessor.

As for US gun control, it’s a complete clusterfuck and their fucked up political system prevents any individual President from making a substantive difference as long as a significant proportion of the population continues to vote in lunatics who will continue to veto the imposition of any restrictions at all.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Number of armed guards at US schools is rising, study finds

The increase comes amid a heated debate over whether teachers and other school officials should carry guns

www.theguardian.com

From one of your favourite references.

Lets see how much Joe is smoking these days.

Is that something he has control over or is it for local and state officials to decide?

 

[west didsblue]

Is that something he has control over or is it for local and state officials to decide?

It’s a 4 year old article that has no relevance to anything Biden has said or done.

 

[mat]

I thought the NRA were on the verge of bankruptcy a couple of years ago?

 

[Bigga]

I thought the NRA were on the verge of bankruptcy a couple of years ago?

To be fair I heard that too.

Thank goodness for the fear of 'BLM' and 'Gen Z' shooters!

'Kin 'ell, they could have gone out of business! Can't have that, can we...?

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

I thought the NRA were on the verge of bankruptcy a couple of years ago?

It was a ploy to avoid having to pay damages in an ongoing lawsuit, the bankruptcy protection claim was thrown out by the judge.

Gun nut lobbying and activism isn't on the decline so another group would just pick up the batton if the NRA ceased to exist.

 

[Dax777]

Sadly his message wont get through. Arseholes like Gym Jordan all over RW media outlets saying this is all a Democrat election stunt.

The below quote suggests he may have a point::

"I believe the majority of you will act to turn your outrage into making this issue central to your vote."

 

[Bigga]

The below quote suggests he may have a point::

"I believe the majority of you will act to turn your outrage into making this issue central to your vote."

One can't guilt trip a voter about being single-issue voting.

It happened here to Corbyn with media pushed 'scruffiness' and 'antisemitism'.

It's part of politics and shit happens.