President Joe Biden

Is the claim that Biden will put armed guards on schools based on anything or has he just been smoking crack again?
 
Haha!

Despite what I think about certain individuals, I will read their posts, depending on how long it is.

If someone can't read 4-5 very short paragraphs and only sees fit to react to what their eyes are trained to see, they're not worth the time to quote in response.

Just sayin'.
 
west didsblue said:
Trump didn’t raise these points after Las Vegas, Sutherland Springs, El Paso, Parkland or any other of the hundreds of mass shootings that happened under his watch. Instead he campaigned for more guns.

If you think Biden or any President could achieve any toughening up in gun laws at all you clearly don’t understand the US political system.
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I didn't think it I was responding to a post.
 
west didsblue said:
Nope. Your Aussie mate said all presidents have made points just like Biden. It was a hopelessly wrong statement when his most recent predecessor said completely the opposite after every mass shooting including the worst one in US history in Las Vegas.
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Are you more interested in Trump or do you actually have a view about gun control in the USA and what can be done to reduce the escalating number of people being shot in the USA.

I already know the answer but I am asking you to state your case.

Focusing on pasts presidents won't help the US nor your case whatever that may be.

if you want to stay hitched to living in the past go ahead I even think your man Joe might have moved on a tad but if he is powerless to do anything as some have suggested mere words are not even cold comfort.

the facts are that mass shootings and shootings in general are on the increase but you choose to ignore the only important issue that needs addressing.

unlike some I don't despair as much about the future of the US that remind me of climate warming doomsayers but it needs real leadership to change for the better but perhaps you don't even think that is required and the sun will explode in your lifetime.
 
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mancity1 said:
Are you more interested in Trump or do you actually have a view about gun control in the USA and what can be done to reduce the escalating number of people being shot in the USA.

I already know the answer but I am asking you to state your case.

Focusing on pasts presidents won't help the US nor your case whatever that may be.

if you want to stay hitched to living in the past go ahead I even think your man Joe might have moved on a tad but if he powerless to do anything as some have suggested mere words are not even cold comfort.

the facts are that mass shootings and shootings in general are on the increase but you choose to ignore the only important issue that needs addressing.

unlike some I don't despair as much about the future of the US that remind me of climate warming doomsayers but it needs real leadership to change for the better but perhaps you don't even think that is required and sun will explode in your lifetime.
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He’s not powerless, and he’s not all-powerful. He’s in the executive branch. He can suggest, and gather support for, legislation, and then once passed, can sign it into law. In order for change to happen, those on either side of the debate must compromise. The problem with the NRA and its elected lackeys is the slippery slope argument that any control is a violation of 2A. We all need those on the red side of the aisle to come off this stance or little can happen. What else do you expect blues in either the legislative or executive to do? You can’t just complain that he’ll do nothing without understanding why nothing has been done. Biden doesn’t have the luxury of threatening reds with entrenched bases with support for an opponent unless they support his agenda. Maybe the last President to have that at all was Reagan — and that was the early 80s after Iran, finding the bottom in the Cold War, two recessions and interest rates in the mid-teens — in other words, everyone was unhappy.

You can’t blame Biden’s leadership here. It has to come from reds voluntarily or voters who toss them out. And there actually appears to be some bipartisan movement on this issue — politicians can read polls and polls on mandatory background checks and lifting age restrictions lean pretty hard one direction. And reds in purple districts are worried about blues leveraging lack of support for gun-law change in November which is why they are starting to come to the table (and maybe among a few of them, their common sense and/or moral sense kicked in). I don’t know that this time is different, but it feels a little different as a Yank whose seen six decades of debate on gun topics.

I’m not usually a conspiracy theorist BTW but I wouldn’t be surprised if the SC is holding back releasing the decision in NYSRPA v Bruen, which is likely to destroy concealed carry laws given this court’s bent. That plus Rowe being eviscerated is going to make them a lightning rod at precisely the wrong time — another reason reds may be more willing to come to the table this time round.
 
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JRockBlues said:
All the paid shills for the NRA will ensure no legislation ever sees the light of day.
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I think that this is still true - but perhaps in the coming decade things may change. The NRA is weakening and organized anti-gun groups are gaining traction. It's a slow process but there is some hope for optimism.
 
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