Private Pilots Licence

whp.blue

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As I have just reached Fifty and I am due to retire within two years I have been considering taking my PPL,
As anyone completed one recently in the uk as I could do with some advice on the subject.
I am cynical by default and when I have spoken in the past to flying schools I am not sure if sometimes they are motivated by making a profit.
So if anyone can tell me how many hours they did and if they failed any exams and resit experience etc I would be grateful.

I ideally would like to be rated for instruments and not quite sure of aircraft size but single engine up to 6- 8 seater so I know the easier Lapl would probably not be a suitable licence.
Thanks in advance
 
My best mates becoming a pilot...his last exam is today actually (to become commercial). It's taken about 3 years.

To get private license isn't too hard and doesn't take too long (several months if I had to guess??). May cost a bit depending where you learn. Instrument license takes a bit longer...I think my mate only recently got his.

There's quite a bit of study to do (think of it as a uni degree) so you have to be pretty self motivated. I know my mate has had some pretty stressful periods...he's under much more pressure though since he's competing for commercial airline jobs which are hard to get.

There are pilots on here who will know a lot more than me...probably wait for what they have to say haha.
 
I know it's a long time ago but 20 odd years ago my mate went to the USA to do it, an intensive course everything include accommodation etc, it might be worth looking into that, he is now a captain on easyjet.
 
Did mine in the late eighties pre EASA regulations.
Flight schools are 100% motivated by profit. They all have to meet the same requirements thought. So shop around. I would probably look at learning somewhere warm where the weather is guaranteed and then coming back to the UK for further training. I'm not sure what the current rules are on Instrument ratings but it was twins when I was learning. There was a kind of semi instrument license for singles but you couldn't file IFR with it.

Hope you have deep pockets as it's not a cheep hobby. But fun if someone else is paying ;-)
 
Gelsons Dad said:
Did mine in the late eighties pre EASA regulations.
Flight schools are 100% motivated by profit. They all have to meet the same requirements thought. So shop around. I would probably look at learning somewhere warm where the weather is guaranteed and then coming back to the UK for further training. I'm not sure what the current rules are on Instrument ratings but it was twins when I was learning. There was a kind of semi instrument license for singles but you couldn't file IFR with it.

Hope you have deep pockets as it's not a cheep hobby. But fun if someone else is paying ;-)

Yes I will be paying I will have to look into IFR for singles

Thanks
 
Forgot to add:
You'll be a hero if you ever fuck up.

By Agency

9:54AM BST 19 May 2015





A hero pilot selflessly made a last-minute decision to direct his falling plane into a field and potentially saved the lives of hundreds in the process.


John Gill, 70, from Belper, Derbyshire, was killed instantly when his tiny Cessna aircraft plummeted to the ground unexpectedly.


But at an inquest into his death a coroner said a last-minute change of direction may have been to prevent the plane crashing into the busy motorway below.


Speaking after the inquest on Monday, Mr Gill's daughter, Helena Jones, said: "We're very proud of him and we're pleased with what he did."


His family said at the time of his death that avoiding the M1 would be something he would do and that he had the experience as a pilot to be able to do it.

Recording a conclusion of accidental death, coroner Mairin Casey said: "Shortly before the moment of impact, there was a change of direction.

"While we cannot be certain, it may well be that, familiar with this area, there was a choice made to minimise the risk to others by diverting course from the direction of the motorway.

"That's something that shows firstly experience and secondly a great deal of selflessness in facing that decision."

The plane landed nose-first in the field near junction 26, with the front end crushed on impact.

Miss Casey added: "Although the intention would have been to fly over the motorway, there seems to have been a decision taken to actually stop that line of travel and turn away from the motorway.

"Had he collided and landed on the motorway, there would have been a far greater risk of collision with other traffic."

A full investigation was carried out into the accident, which happened on June 14 last year.

The inquest heard that neither Mr Gill nor Mr Eaves had suffered any sudden illness prior to the accident and that the full safety checks were carried out before the flight.

There was also no evidence of the condition of the plane, built in 1972, contributing to the crash.

The only explanation was that the plane had suffered a partial loss of power - but investigators could not establish why.

Mr Gill's family said that he was flying circuits on the day of the crash and would usually send a text message to them telling them when he would be home.

They said that first they knew of his death was when police visited them. Mr Gill, of Knowl Avenue, worked for Rolls-Royce for nearly 40 years and learned to fly at Merlin Flying Club, Hucknall, after he retired in 2000.

He also had a career as a promising young pop star. He cut a record, I've Got To Please You, which was released in 1973 under his stage name, Jonathan Gill.

well, unless they read the accident report:

Summary:

The aircraft failed to reach normal circuit height after takeoff probably because of a partial loss of engine power. The aircraft continued flight at low altitude and airspeed before stalling, and an incipient spin entry resulted in the aircraft striking the ground vertically nose-down.

the old death spiral gets another one :-)
 
Did mine 11 years ago in Canada, so not quite the uk based answer you're after, and possibly a few things have change, but here goes...

I always wanted to be a pilot, so I found the ground school / study interesting rather than stressful. I did a lot of reading in my own time...and as a result got my licence in 3 months...although I expect you'd struggle in the uk to get all your ground school in in as little as 3 months. Based on the fact you're not needing to pass for career purposes I expect you'll enjoy it.

Expect to be completing your first solo after 7-10 hours. Flying is pretty easy...it's the study that takes the time.

Great experience.

Expect to get your license between 45-70 hours.

Good luck.
 
Blue Maverick said:
I know it's a long time ago but 20 odd years ago my mate went to the USA to do it, an intensive course everything include accommodation etc, it might be worth looking into that, he is now a captain on easyjet.
is he a city fan and based at Manchester ???

I say this because there is an easy jet pilot that displayed all the city kits(car window kit things ) in his cockpit window.if were playing ill always tell him the score when he gets back,if he wants it or not :)
 

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