Pubs not serving to U25's due to Covid

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Tbh I'd assumed the whole you can still go to work and school, but not socialise in groups of over 6 was a snide way to ban under 25's from the pub anyway. I can only speak anecdotally from what I've seen, but it has been the youngsters (not all) kicking the arse out of it all summer and I think some of the data reflects this as well as certain pubs as the root of local outbreaks. Certainly round here they've been packing the locals out and I suppose the landlords aren't too arsed if it allowed them to offset the losses of previous months.
 

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I look forward to them bitching about the loss of income in future then - we can all piss ourselves laughing when they have to shut and isolate for 14 days because of middle aged customers testing positive. Daft fucking landlord reading and believing the papers that any increase in cases is solely among and down to the young.....
Tbf they are going on official figures,they can't win,everyone shouts when they dont open but try and open safely and they get battered
 

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I'm pretty sure this isn't actually legal. Pubs can refuse to serve any individual, but they can't ban whole groups based on arbitrary factors. I mean I'm pretty sure I've read that men are more likely to break the lockdown restrictions than women too, but they wouldn't get away with banning men from pubs.

ETA: They might just get away with it.

When can a trader or service provider justify age discrimination?
It’s possible to justify both direct and indirect age discrimination. The trader or service provider would have to show they have a good enough reason for discriminating against you.

Here are examples of reasons service providers and traders often use to try to justify discrimination:

  • ensuring the health and safety of customers
  • protecting the welfare of individuals
  • enabling people of particular age groups to enjoy activities together
  • making sure that particular services are targeted at people who need them most.
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But I'd say you're more likely to be able to justify that if, for example, you were to open it only for over 60s, rather than excluding a particular group.
 
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Tbh I'd assumed the whole you can still go to work and school, but not socialise in groups of over 6 was a snide way to ban under 25's from the pub anyway. I can only speak anecdotally from what I've seen, but it has been the youngsters (not all) kicking the arse out of it all summer and I think some of the data reflects this as well as certain pubs as the root of local outbreaks. Certainly round here they've been packing the locals out and I suppose the landlords aren't too arsed if it allowed them to offset the losses of previous months.
Yeah I was looking at the data earlier, and if you look at the number of cases, there's a pretty clear second wave, but if you look at the number of deaths, it's pretty flat. That suggests that the people getting it in the second wave are probably younger on average than the people who got it in the first wave, and therefore more likely to survive.
 

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Two pubs have barred everyone under the age of 25 amid fears that young people are behind a sudden surge in coronavirus cases.

The Oddfellows Arms in Sherburn-in-Elmet, North Yorks., and The Angel Inn in Sheffield, South Yorks., have said they will refuse to serve those aged between 18 and 25.

Seems a bit extreme. I know a publican has the right to refuse drink to anyone but this appears discriminatory.
Sounds great to me. My pub would be miles better without them. Sign all pubs up to this
 

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I'm pretty sure this isn't actually legal. Pubs can refuse to serve any individual, but they can't ban whole groups based on arbitrary factors. I mean I'm pretty sure I've read that men are more likely to break the lockdown restrictions than women too, but they wouldn't get away with banning men from pubs.

They certainly couldn't ban just men- or women - from their pub under current discrimination laws. I think the same would apply to age - try Googling the Equality Act 2010 - I have been too long away from dealing with stuff under that for me to remember all the detail I am afraid
 
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Yeah I was looking at the data earlier, and if you look at the number of cases, there's a pretty clear second wave, but if you look at the number of deaths, it's pretty flat. That suggests that the people getting it in the second wave are probably younger on average than the people who got it in the first wave, and therefore more likely to survive.

But once they go home from the pub to middle aged parents or off to see granny.........thats what concerns the govt
 

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They certainly could ban just men- or women - from their pub under current discrimination laws. I think the same would apply to age - try Googling the Equality Act 2010 - I have been too long away from dealing with stuff under that for me to remember all the detail I am afraid
I can tell. The Equality act stops people from being unfairly treated based on specific criteria and age is one of them. If their age is the issue then they wouldnt be treated unfairly. Plus they are cunts in pubs, so ban them
 

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