Rachel Maddow

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Rachel Maddow is a liberal US political commentator. She is probably most known for her weekly TV show, "The Rachel Maddow Show," which airs on MSNBC.

This thread is for discussion of Maddow.
 
I was going to post this in the US Politics thread - but on second thought, I think that Maddow deserves a thread of her own... at the least because discussion of Maddow would detract from the broader US political discussion thread, especially from those who don't know or don't care about her.

Anyhow, here goes...
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I've been a huge fan of Maddow after watching her MSNBC broadcasts.

Recently, though, Sam Sender, of "The Majority Report," fame (you can watch his podcasts on Youtube if you're interested), remarked about Maddow, that they had a (I'm paraphrasing from memory here) "distant personal relationship: due to their differing political views and other issues.

During the discussion, Sender characterized Maddow as a careerist... implying that she'd toe the company line in furtherance of her career even when this stance conflicted with her personal views.

I didn't think much of Sender's remark upon first hearing it - but then, this...
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In a misguided attempt to attract increased viewership, NBC executives decided to hire ex-Republican National Chair Ronna McDaniel as a political commentator. For context - McDaniel is an election denier and is a 100% MAGA Republican.

The hiring of McDaniel by NBC is misguided, because it lends credence to MAGA Republican's baseless claims about election fraud and about the Jan 6 attack on the US Capitol. It's simply an attempt to make more money and increase viewership - nevermind the tacit bothsidesism tacit in this decision. There is no both-sides: the 2020 election was fair and free; the Jan 6th invasion of the US Capitol was not a peaceful demonstration by American patriots.

As this fiasco played out, McDaniel was eventually not allowed to appear as a commentator - due to massive pushback by MSNBC personnel as supported by public media.

Maddow then appeared on air in her show and praised MSNBC leadership for having the fortitude to reflect on their decision to hire McDaniel and then to conclude that they were wrong.

Which brings me back to Sender's take on Maddow - careerist.

I'm not a fan of Sender - his politics are too far left for me - and his "Majority Report" show strikes me as mostly unbalanced in reporting - characterizing events in the best light for (far) left-leaning viewers.
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And then, I watched this episode of Keith Olbermann's, "Countdown," podcast:


Now... I'm still a fan of Maddow's. And I still think that Sender colors his "Majority Report" show to such an extent that it's unreliable. But I don't trust Maddow nearly as much as I used to: Maddow is, in fact, a careerist.
 
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Maddow is a fantastic historical journalist.

I believe she's producing a film documentary about US political history hence her limited time on MSNBC.

However, I think she can overreach when she's covering Trump on her show. She's open about her feelings for him, yet it feels some of her reports and her opinion verge into Faux News territory and than is being used to promote the persecution complex by his supporters.
 
However, I think she can overreach when she's covering Trump on her show. She's open about her feelings for him, yet it feels some of her reports and her opinion verge into Faux News territory and than is being used to promote the persecution complex by his supporters.
Agree. She plays to her audience.

At the same time, I mostly agree with Maddow on what she reports. Sender... not so much. Yet Sender's labeling of Maddow as a "careerist" - rings very true.
 
An opinionist, who doesn't even class herself as a journalist according to the lawsuit against her a few years back. She's... "entertainment" so couldn't be sued. A judge accepted her own classification.

Ergo, she's irrelevant in her 'opinion' about anything political as 'journalistic' value.

So class her as entertainment gossip.
 
An opinionist, who doesn't even class herself as a journalist according to the lawsuit against her a few years back. She's... "entertainment" so couldn't be sued. A judge accepted her own classification.

Ergo, she's irrelevant in her 'opinion' about anything political as 'journalistic' value.

So class her as entertainment gossip.
I didn't know she'd used the Faux News law. One she's attacked them for numerous times.
 
An opinionist, who doesn't even class herself as a journalist according to the lawsuit against her a few years back. She's... "entertainment" so couldn't be sued. A judge accepted her own classification.

Ergo, she's irrelevant in her 'opinion' about anything political as 'journalistic' value.

So class her as entertainment gossip.
Disagree.

Maddow takes the *factual* news, reports the facts, and then offers her commentary. She's no neutral reporter - but she is an honest one. I've never found Maddow guilty of lying. Moreover, Maddow is extremely erudite - able to offer extremely salient insight on numerous topics.

Maddow is certainly not "gossip" at all.

What is gossip? According to OED:
Casual or unconstrained conversation or reports about other people, typically involving details that are not confirmed as being true.

Instead, Maddow's show is a left-leaning opinion blog detailing accurately reporting current political events, mostly (exclusively?) in the USA, as a launching point for her analysis and opinions - both of which are informed by her oftentimes extensive research into the topics under discussion.

My sole quibble with Maddow is that she appears to be careerist - far too forgiving of her superiors' actions in furtherance of her livelihood.
 
In concluding that Maddow's statement would be understood even by her own viewers as non-factual, the judge emphasized that what Maddow does in general is not present news but rather hyperbole and exploitation of actual news to serve her liberal activism


People with the same views will support her narrative, shocker.
 
Some influencers are left, others are right, but you don’t get many in the middle.

People with the same views will support, or deny their narrative.

Shocker!
 

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