Ref for the derby

[Dirty Harry]

Still mate, it has to benefit us. As much as we will still get the odd head scratcher it will indisputably get us more decisions our way, it can’t not do.

Sure mate, there are going to be instances where they can't dispute it, but I still don't think it'll even things out, but as an example from yesterday of how it can still be manipulated, there was an incident where Sterling got past Young (the one where he was all over his back), it was a clear foul, however, if you look closely, beforehand, Sterling has his hand on Youngs' back and momentarily takes hold of his shirt, it in no way shape or form impedes Young, but if that was reviewed under VAR and you want to manipulate the game, Atkinson will point to the most minor of indiscretions beforehand to justify why it is a foul to the rags, making the later challenge irrelevant, with us, he'd have taken the view the first contact was so slight it was not a foul.

As I posted in another thread, I didn't get carried away with being 2-0 at half time as I'd noticed Atkinson employing these tactics virtually all of the first half, something very fishy with the way he officiated yesterday.

 

[asaluttar]

You don't get it do you? Sterling takes his chances at half time it's 4 0 penalty decisions are irrelevant, they wouldn't have got 3 if we were 4 0 up at half time, they would have went for damage limitation, but it will be the refs fault and anyone else, except the manager and the players

ie if we are absolutely 100% perfect, twice as good as every other team in the league, never miss a chance, etc


But what if the players are merely human, and will miss chances or make defensive even though they still play far better than opponents

 

[rnblade]

He didn’t cost us the game, our ineptitude infront of goal and comical defending did.
He didn’t give a penalty for the attack on Kun which was complete incompetence and blatant bias. Moments earlier he gave a foul for a rag getting touch as he ran by.
We were the masters of our own demise aided by blatant incompetence by the officials.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Sure mate, there are going to be instances where they can't dispute it, but I still don't think it'll even things out, but as an example from yesterday of how it can still be manipulated, there was an incident where Sterling got past Young (the one where he was all over his back), it was a clear foul, however, if you look closely, beforehand, Sterling has his hand on Youngs' back and momentarily takes hold of his shirt, it in no way shape or form impedes Young, but if that was reviewed under VAR and you want to manipulate the game, Atkinson will point to the most minor of indiscretions beforehand to justify why it is a foul to the rags, making the later challenge irrelevant, with us, he'd have taken the view the first contact was so slight it was not a foul.

As I posted in another thread, I didn't get carried away with being 2-0 at half time as I'd noticed Atkinson employing these tactics virtually all of the first half, something very fishy with the way he officiated yesterday.

Add the entire historical catches from Fleetwood, Grimbsy and every Scottish port that has landed a shrimp and we are some way short of 'very fishy' if we look at Atkinson's performance yesterday. It is in the same category as Taylor's against CFC last season. There is a primeval stench about it!

 

[stadiumcat]

I don't like saying this but Referees are bent! They cannot be that poor, Its not just our game yesterday. The decisions that they make are orchestrated to a bigger picture, with the current amount of money in the game and no clear investigation or followup to poor, inaugurate or dammed-right wrong decisions is farcical. VAR will go some way toward highlighting and allowing extra review of certain decisions but not all.
For me this is ruining the game
The sooner the whistle is blown on the corruption the better.

 

[Cellarite]

You're only half right there as you had seen it before, in the game you have mentioned there but it was the other way round.
Taylor was running up to Sideshow Bob with his hand going to his top pocket to issue a red, then all of a sudden he started waving his arms around signifying play on when it should have been a free kick and red card to City.

Same ref, same shite, changing his mind on his actions in both cases to the detriment of City.

Try to find footage of that Chelsea decision anywhere online. It seems to have been removed from the annals of history.

 

[Cellarite]

I don't like saying this but Referees are bent! They cannot be that poor, Its not just our game yesterday. The decisions that they make are orchestrated to a bigger picture, with the current amount of money in the game and no clear investigation or followup to poor, inaugurate or dammed-right wrong decisions is farcical. VAR will go some way toward highlighting and allowing extra review of certain decisions but not all.
For me this is ruining the game
The sooner the whistle is blown on the corruption the better.

But VAR won’t help because again there’s no transparency. They decide what decisions are reviewed.

 

[SWP's back]

Did Pep comment on the big decisions that weren't given out of interest?

 

[@BluePhil8]

What it comes down to is since 2008 there has been a significant difference in the way we are treated by referees to the point where anyone can target us by planting studs on our players, scissor kicking, deliberately hand balling etc. I do not know if this is down to xenophobia, the referee's association receiving pressure to protect the 'brand' (united) from the Premier League, betting syndicates hating City or what but even the neutrals know it now. Bent. The Liverpool game should have been 2-1, yesterday should have been a victory for City. Refs did their job both times by ensuring we didn't win I just don't know who's controlling them.

 

[@BluePhil8]

Makes me laugh that people were happy with his appointment as well. He's always been a bent **** like all the rest and the best thing City can ever hope for is an impartial ref who follows the laws for both teams as we will never get a ref who favours us. Never.