Ref Watch

I don’t think corruption starts & ends with City. I don’t think people are told to give a decision for x & be paid y.

Do I think City are involved ? Yes I do. If we had conclusive evidence in 2012 & kept quiet for the benefit of the brand as has been mentioned as it benefits us then we are involved.

Then more needs to be done rather than venting frustration on a forum like all fans do for all clubs - fans boycott, protests, real demand for change and proof

Continuing to pay to watch whilst corruption definitely exists means it will just forever continue
 
I don’t think corruption starts & ends with City. I don’t think people are told to give a decision for x & be paid y.

Do I think City are involved ? Yes I do. If we had conclusive evidence in 2012 & kept quiet for the benefit of the brand as has been mentioned as it benefits us then we are involved.
I still remember a game years back against Newcastle at the Etihad, we were really close to getting in the top 4, not getting 3 points at that stage would have put a huge dint in our chances, Newcastle player gets brought down in the box and it was as clear a penalty as I’ve ever seen, genuinely was a stonewall penalty.

What was my first reaction ? Yes ! it’s not a penalty ?
Nope, it was “are we now part of the select group who get decisions in our favour like certain other teams”, that decision, it saddened me tbf.
 
Then more needs to be done rather than venting frustration on a forum like all fans do for all clubs - fans boycott, protests, real demand for change and proof

Continuing to pay to watch whilst corruption definitely exists means it will just forever continue

I’ve called out corruption at work & the impacts are likely to cost me $2m over the next 10 years, I’ll stick to the forum if you don’t mind.
 
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I’ve called our corruption at work & the impacts are likely to cost me $2m over the next 10 years, I’ll stick to the forum if you don’t mind.

That’s fine - but if all fans who genuinely love the game and firmly believe corruption exists - pointing to bad official decisions in a match won’t change the pendulum.

Meanwhile, VAR will continue to adapt and find ways to improve - the controversy and odd farcical decisions will never end though. The game has too many grey areas.
 
That’s fine - but if all fans who genuinely love the game and firmly believe corruption exists - pointing to bad official decisions in a match won’t change the pendulum.

Meanwhile, VAR will continue to adapt and find ways to improve - the controversy and odd farcical decisions will never end though. The game has too many grey areas.

I agree & I think it mirrors life / business / politics. At times the lid comes off & we never know why but sometimes it’s very rarely down to being exposed or whistleblowing. Maybe when others are expendable.
 
Why are referees told to sign NDS & has the question been asked ?

If the press wanted them to spill the beans they’d bully PIGMOL to remove it.
 
Huh?

Anyhow, check back in 4 years time. AI is going to make offside calls instant and spot on, out-of-bounds calls 100% accurate and in the longer term, even make subjective calls (hand ball and the like) instant and uniformly applied.
People cry conspiracy now, that would be me out.

So basically a programmable solution that's open to corruption. Tweak the tolerances to favour one team over another.

Might nip out later and buy myself a low emission diesel Volkswagen!
 
Just as an aside. My favourite is where most of the refs are giving us "an advantage", just after one of our players has had to avoid 3 scything defenders only to be faced with 5 more and no team mate in the vicinity.
Perhaps the refs know that unless it's in shooting range any free kick to City will see a dozen passes before it's back with Ederson. Might as well just play advantage.
 
Just as an aside. My favourite is where most of the refs are giving us "an advantage", just after one of our players has had to avoid 3 scything defenders only to be faced with 5 more and no team mate in the vicinity.
The application of the 'advantage' law does my tits in.

I've lost count of the amount of times an opposition player has scythed down one of our players and the ref has waived 'play on' when the defence is set and there has been nothing on. Then, instead of booking the player next time the ball is out of play it just gets 'forgotten' about.

It's worse when there is a foul and we have a CLEAR advantage and the ref stops play to give a player a 'talking to', not even a booking.
 

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