Referees’ Performances 2018/19

Lads - lets get this straight. You can have bad refs. You can have asshole refs. You may even have refs with subconcious dislikes for certain teamsor players. But what you do not have is refs that are under instruction, or that have been influenced in a certain direction. Its unbecoming to suggest that they are there.

To think it through.

Say Liverpool. Or City or any other team for that matter. Look at how much they would lose if it came out they were trying to influence a ref. These are billion dollar/ pound/ euro entities.

It will be straight down two divisions with ya. It'll be several hundred million off the value of the franchise. it'll be owners reputations compromised and looking to sell up asap.

Thats not happening, its not going to happen. Its daft to suggest it it is happening. Forget about it.
Welcome back Frank/Pige. It's been a while.

I presume you're not a native Mancunian, and probably from over the pond, by your use of "asshole refs", "ya" and "franchises". This is the Premier League over here, not the NFL.

When the senior management of the FArce say that one club dominating is bad for the game, or a successful "X" is good for business selling the "product" overseas, followed by a series of decisions made by officials which only back up the party line, then you begin to have grave doubts about the honesty and integrity of the officials appointed.

To suggest otherwise is, imo, incredibly naive, purely based on what we all see week in, week out. Either the the decisions are bent, or the officials incompetent. However, those same "incompetent" officials can perform quite adequately in most situations where a result is not really important to the destiny of the major honours, so the doubts continue and multiply among the match going public.

With the introduction of VAR next season, we may get greater transparency in the decision making process, but the diluted version being brought in will STILL not be transparent to the fans attending, and STILL open to manipulation by the officials who will STILL be completely unaccountable to anyone other than themslves and their paymasters.
 
Scudamore said at the start of the season that he did not want a one horse race as it was bad for business. Referees are paid by the FA and to a certain extent carry out their wishes. No money changes hands or any bias. The problem for the FA is that we are just too good. So therefore other teams are given a little helping hand, free kicks near the area, penalties, non given to us and so on. You see it every game. It is to keep the product viable. It has taken a huge helping hand to keep the dippers in touch but they done it and the season goes to the last weekend.
 
I thought Dean did OK in general. But winning the ball does not preclude the possibility that a foul can be committed simultaneously. So Choudhury winning the ball against Sterling in the second half, does not mean that Chilwell didn’t foul Sterling. Vinnie touched the ball in a tackle, but was nevertheless cautioned because he also fouled the Leicester player. I think Chilwell fouled Sterling and it should have been a penalty.

There is scant evidence to accuse Dean of acting under instruction last night. It would have required some extraordinary powers of imagineering to contrive a reason for disallowing Vinnie’s goal.

Funnily enough I think Dean is the least likely to ref to instruction from higher up. He's got too much 'brand Dean' stuff going on and probably sees himself as above it.

Weirdly, it seems hit & miss which team he will bestow his approval on during a game, in fact his bias can even change during a game. But it all about him.

The damage is done by the low profile guys, we've all seen it.
 
All fans do.

Do you not see the irony of posting this in a thread set up for whining about referee's performances.

We've won 195 points in 2 seasons and still moan like bastards about referees. It's what sports fans do

No irony the scousers are the worst and they get the rub of most of the iffy decisions.
 
I thought Dean did OK in general. But winning the ball does not preclude the possibility that a foul can be committed simultaneously. So Choudhury winning the ball against Sterling in the second half, does not mean that Chilwell didn’t foul Sterling. Vinnie touched the ball in a tackle, but was nevertheless cautioned because he also fouled the Leicester player. I think Chilwell fouled Sterling and it should have been a penalty.

There is scant evidence to accuse Dean of acting under instruction last night. It would have required some extraordinary powers of imagineering to contrive a reason for disallowing Vinnie’s goal.


He should have awarded the pen for Chilwells barge on Raheem. Vinny got the ball first so that shouldn't be a caution. He was pointedly looking at his watch when Aguero walked off but there is nothing in the rules that say you have to run off when subbed. In the first 20 minutes he seemed to give Leicester everything. When Schmiecal was time wasting in the first half he did nothing. Aside from that you could say he was fair.
 

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