Referees/Officials 2017/18 performances

[blueinsa]

That’s not proof, that’s hearsay surely.

Hearsay to us no doubt but at the time id wager it was proof enough for Mason to be removed from our games and others to resign over night.

 

[The blue phantom]

The club commissioned an investigation into our games and the officiating we were receiving and we presented the evidence to the PL and PiGMOL.

We had proof that a number of them were intentionally shafting us and the Mason suddenly no longer got any of our games that season and other figures suddenly departed the scene.

All swept under the carpet in the same way Halseys comments about being asked to lie in his post match reports was last year.

But all this has come from a poster off here, it can't be taken as gospel/fact.

 

[1961_vintage]

Vengeance? If what has been written on this board is true and we have evidence of corruption against Mason do you honestly think he would disallow a goal when we are 1-0 up in a cup tie were strolling through when we have the power to expose him as a cheat and destroy his livelihood?

Certainly. We called him out on his antics to his bosses and he's not forgotten that. Why would he? You seem to argue from a sense of everything being either black or white. In reality, there are many shades in between, some murkier than others.

 

[prestonibbo_mcfc]

True, but I don’t think he would’ve known either way so he was always going to take his linesman’s word for it. You can only overrule him if you’re certain he was wrong, and I doubt Mason would’ve known that.

I was being pedantic. I don't think many refs would overrule the linesman on an offside, unless he was inline with say a set piece into the box.

 

[The blue phantom]

But obviously we don't, as previous "evidence" hasn't changed a fucking thing.

What evidence?

 

[blueinsa]

But all this has come from a poster off here, it can't be taken as gospel/fact.

Agreed, its hearsay as far as we, fans are concerned but overnight people resigned and mason was removed from anymore games that season involving us and that isnt the behaviour of an organisation or people wrongly accused as far as im concerned.

 

[meltonblue]

Why would Mason overrule it though? The linesman clearly thought that Sane was in an offside position, Mason wouldn’t have been able to tell either way.

My issue with that goal was not only was Sane not offside (although that can happen from time to time, in terms of the linesman getting it wrong), how can he know from his position that Sane was in the line of sight of the keeper?

I thought the same when Newcastle had that goal disallowed against us.

 

[prestonibbo_mcfc]

What evidence?

The evidence we were supposed to have.

 

[franksinatra]

But obviously we don't, as previous "evidence" hasn't changed a fucking thing.

Well apparently Mason went Awol and other refs left their posts. So now we do not have evidence?

 

[blueinsa]

Why would Mason overrule it though? The linesman clearly thought that Sane was in an offside position, Mason wouldn’t have been able to tell either way.

My issue with that goal was not only was Sane not offside (although that can happen from time to time, in terms of the linesman getting it wrong), how can he know from his position that Sane was in the line of sight of the keeper?

I thought the same when Newcastle had that goal disallowed against us.

Because being in an offside position is not reason to disallow a goal anymore if he's not interfering with play.

Lots and lots of goals are given with players stood yards offside.

 

[squirtyflower]

WTF are you rambling on abt. The same poster who's never off this thread came on and stated anyone who doesn't believe our club is targeted/corruption is a bellend. i never mentioned it was you, you need to re read the post.

And yet more constructive debate from you, we should all read and learn how to be a mass debator as you clearly are.

 

[prestonibbo_mcfc]

Well apparently Mason went Awol and other refs left their posts. So now we do not have evidence?

I don't know Frank. I was just commenting on your bit about us being able to ruin his career.
I don't know what has happened in the past, re this. All I know is that this current crop of officials
are fucking horrendous.

 

[franksinatra]

Or come on. If your saying the press know you don't think the likes of Winter, Samuel, Holt would blow it all wide open to get the scoop of the century?

This is where the argument falls apart.

They are asking us to believe that in 2012 David Bernstein the FA Chairman covered up this info, the media which has exposed far more juicy stories all decided to conceal the story and then the ex-city director John Williams carried on this cover up.

 

[Blue Hefner]

With or without the severity of the cahallenge it was a red all day. The ball was long gone and it was a cynical attempt to stop the player without any pretence of playing the ball, except in Phantom's or Frank's world

If Sane has have spat at that player, he’d be banned for weeks. There’s something seriously wrong with the English game

As for Frank et al, if they carry on then they may as well joint the Flat Earth mob

 

[squirtyflower]

Well apparently Mason went Awol and other refs left their posts. So now we do not have evidence?

So was Mason removed from Man City v West Brom in March 2012 or not or are you going to continue with the snide digs at fellow blues?

 

[blueinsa]

This is where the argument falls apart.

They are asking us to believe that in 2012 David Bernstein the FA Chairman covered up this info, the media which has exposed far more juicy stories all decided to conceal the story and then the ex-city director John Williams carried on this cover up.

But then people will give you the BBC as an example of how a cover up can occur and that was abour peaodophiles like Saville operating with abundance and in full knowledge of many for years and not a single thing was ever said or done of note to stop it.

The argument does not fall down at all.

 

[franksinatra]

I don't know Frank. I was just commenting on your bit about us being able to ruin his career.
I don't know what has happened in the past, re this. All I know is that this current crop of officials
are fucking horrendous.

I agree wholeheartedly, they are horrendous. But as yet we do not have any evidence of corruption. Maybe in the future it will be proven and I would never say there could never be corruption in football as it has happened in other countries I just think, at the minute, its a massive leap to say its a conspiracy against City

 

[Blue Mist]

We can argue long into the night about whether Refs/linesman are bent against City but here is a question for all those who say they are not bent just incompetent.

Please name a decision this season that went in Citys favour that was later proved to be wrong.

 

[Ric]

I agree wholeheartedly, they are horrendous. But as yet we do not have any evidence of corruption. Maybe in the future it will be proven and I would never say there could never be corruption in football as it has happened in other countries I just think, at the minute, its a massive leap to say its a conspiracy against City

Yep.

 

[franksinatra]

But then people will give you the BBC as an example of how a cover up can occur and that was abour peaodophiles like Saville operating with abundance and in full knowledge of many for years and not a single thing was ever said or done of note to stop it.

The argument does not fall down at all.

But because there is corruption in other walks of life does not mean there is one against City. Do you not think its a little unlikely City fans on Blue Moon know about this dossier but its never been reported elsewhere?