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[mexico1970]

2010 general election whhere farage started getting very minor attention, returned a hung parliament the first green candidate win a seat , first alliance MP in NI, the 3 main parties then with opposite ideologies and the vote was split across all 3, hardly echo chamber politics

UKIP had been around since 1992 and not until after 2010 did they get and notice bar being the fringe cranks alongside the monster raving looney party and communists etc.

So yes the **** was platformed post 2010, and cameron shit himself because of it and fucked the country up with forced referendom which we have seen has left us weaker and more divided.

Just to clarify, you want people unplatformed?

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Just to clarify, you want people unplatformed?

Into a speeding freight train?

 

[urban genie]

Just to clarify, you want people unplatformed?

what are you on about? as per trying to twist a post you cannot reasonable argue against

I don't expect open racists and bigots to be given unlimited air time as he was, same I don't want religous zealots that spout bile from any faith given exposure tovthe detrement of society

 

[Blue and true]

Haven't watched the extended version but in the original one, the woman repeated a version of the baseless 'Great Replacement' conspiracy theory, according to which Muslim women are having more children who will eventually take over here and impose Shariah law on the rest of us when they grow up. The term 'Great Replacement' was originally coined by the French scholar Renaud Camus in 2011. The British author Bat Ye'or also published a book called Eurabia: The Euro-Arab Axis in 2005 which argued that Muslims are deliberately working to replace white Europeans through immigration and high birthrates in order to broaden the territory of a putative Caliphate.

Unfortunately, I haven't got all day and so will have to make this brief, but in actuality Muslim women born in European countries are doing precisely what demographers predict, namely, having fewer children. Fertility rates for Muslim women born in Europe are declining quickly and heading toward rates for non-Muslims.

For example, a Pew Research Forum study projects that that the percentage of Muslims in Europe will grow from 6 percent in 2010 to 8 percent in 2030. The countries with the highest concentrations of Muslims will be France and Belgium, each with just over 10 percent. So we are far from the false demographic projections that are sometimes cited to provoke panic. For more on this and some additional statistics, see this little book:

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Moving on, the ‘creeping Shariah law’ claim dates back to some misreported comments made by the previous Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams. Shariah law, in fact, has no traction in UK law. None whatsoever. Those Shariah courts that do exist are designed to help mediate between and counsel those who might, for example, be thinking of divorcing or getting one. But any decisions made are advisory and not binding in English law.

Additionally, although Islamists (like affiliates of the now proscribed organisation Hizb ut-Tahrir) and Salafi-Jihadists (like ISIS) favour a Caliphate and the introduction of a harsh version of Shariah, and Islamism is a problem in the UK (if you read the publications of former Islamists Ed Husain and Maajid Nawaz), their views are not representative of all Muslims. Surveys with carefully calibrated questions in fact reveal that many (if not most) Muslims favour democracy, and that most are culturally conservative but politically liberal. For a review of the data which shows this, see especially, Charles Kurzman's The Missing Martyrs: Why There Are So Few Muslim Terrorists. There is a section in it in which the author specifically addresses the advocacy of Shariah among Muslims that some surveys claim to have uncovered. It turns out that it's not that simple and a lot depends on how the questions in the survey are framed. However, the relevant passage is too long for me to type out.

Will leave it there. Hope this post helps in some way. For more on Shariah, John Esposito & Natana J DeLong Bas's Shariah: What Everyone Needs To Know is excellent on this aspect of Islam. Also have high hopes that this publication will also prove to be illuminating when it arrives (just ordered it today):

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Brilliant post. Thank you for sharing. Unfortunately, the people that most urgently need to read this, and moreover comprehend it, don't have the brain capacity to do so.

 

[mexico1970]

what are you on about? as per trying to twist a post you cannot reasonable argue against

I don't expect open racists and bigots to be given unlimited air time as he was, same I don't want religous zealots that spout bile from any faith given exposure tovthe detrement of society

You're still saying that people with different views than you shouldn't get a platform aren't you? Fortunately you don't get to decide what's acceptable.

 

[urban genie]

You're still saying that people with different views than you shouldn't get a platform aren't you? Fortunately you don't get to decide what's acceptable.

no I am not, I am saying a racist **** who is just grifting the public for his own gain and causing unecessary division should be getting the same type of exposure as any other fringe party.

UKIP then and reform now are no more worthy than the worlers party or monster raving looney party of air time, the tweed twat was given a platform never seen before for a fringe party leader and seen since, same like they wheel out that cock galloway.

 

[mexico1970]

no I am not, I am saying a racist **** who is just grifting the public for his own gain and causing unecessary division should be getting the same type of exposure as any other fringe party.

UKIP then and reform now are no more worthy than the worlers party or monster raving looney party of air time, the tweed twat was given a platform never seen before for a fringe party leader and seen since, same like they wheel out that cock galloway.

Yeah...but apart from that?

 

[metalblue]

no I am not, I am saying a racist **** who is just grifting the public for his own gain and causing unecessary division should be getting the same type of exposure as any other fringe party.

UKIP then and reform now are no more worthy than the worlers party or monster raving looney party of air time, the tweed twat was given a platform never seen before for a fringe party leader and seen since, same like they wheel out that cock galloway.

Reform are polling more than the Lib Dem’s and greens. You may not like their policies but to call them fringe is absurd.

 

[urban genie]

Reform are polling more than the Lib Dem’s and greens. You may not like their policies but to call them fringe is absurd.

We are not talking about todays poling but my comment that unusual plataforming of farage for the last near 2 decades as UKIP leader and then a reform member is why they are in the position, it is unprecidented that a fringe party as both were have been given the exposure by our main news outlets seen lacking for greens and tbf the lib dems.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Reform are polling more than the Lib Dem’s and greens. You may not like their policies but to call them fringe is absurd.

Swivel eyed racist bastard loons though aren't they? Decent people don't vote for Farage led parties.