Roberto Mancini

Re: Mancini on Sky talking about City

Kazzydeyna said:
jayblue said:
We loved him. He still loves us. Did his best and brought us success. End of story. Don't get the ill feeling between fans towards him. His season after winning the title wasn't great. This one isn't exactly spellbinding is it ?

We have a side to our fan base that I always think of as the "Colin Schindler wing".

It's not Mancini per se they have a problem with. It's the idea of ANYBODY finally bringing success to our club. He ruined their little bubble of "I'm cool me, I support city, and they're like, you know, all rubbish and everything"

Probably every club has them.

It wouldn't have mattered one iota if we had appointed Pellers when we appointed Mancini. They would simply have hated HIM instead. Or mourinho, or guardiola. It wouldn't have mattered. Whoever killed off "little City" was always going to get it from them, sat behind their keyboards in the Admiral tracksuit tops.

For the record I adored Mancini, all the more so because in this modern day and age he wasn't afraid of or intimidated by anybody. Not his millionaire players. Not the size of the job he was brought into do. And not Any other managers.

He's gone though. I think it was a monumental mistake to sack him the way we did. We sent a message out to all the (present and future) city players that "YOU are bigger than the club. And the manager"

We're paying the price for that this season as well.

Fuerza Pelligrini, but Mancini will ALWAYS be "the one"

Yes, YES, YES, YES, YES!!!!
 
Re: Mancini on Sky talking about City

Kazzydeyna said:
jayblue said:
We loved him. He still loves us. Did his best and brought us success. End of story. Don't get the ill feeling between fans towards him. His season after winning the title wasn't great. This one isn't exactly spellbinding is it ?

We have a side to our fan base that I always think of as the "Colin Schindler wing".

It's not Mancini per se they have a problem with. It's the idea of ANYBODY finally bringing success to our club. He ruined their little bubble of "I'm cool me, I support city, and they're like, you know, all rubbish and everything"

Probably every club has them.

It wouldn't have mattered one iota if we had appointed Pellers when we appointed Mancini. They would simply have hated HIM instead. Or mourinho, or guardiola. It wouldn't have mattered. Whoever killed off "little City" was always going to get it from them, sat behind their keyboards in the Admiral tracksuit tops.

For the record I adored Mancini, all the more so because in this modern day and age he wasn't afraid of or intimidated by anybody. Not his millionaire players. Not the size of the job he was brought into do. And not Any other managers.

He's gone though. I think it was a monumental mistake to sack him the way we did. We sent a message out to all the (present and future) city players that "YOU are bigger than the club. And the manager"

We're paying the price for that this season as well.

Fuerza Pelligrini, but Mancini will ALWAYS be "the one"
Amen to that brother
 
Re: Mancini on Sky talking about City

Kazzydeyna said:
jayblue said:
We loved him. He still loves us. Did his best and brought us success. End of story. Don't get the ill feeling between fans towards him. His season after winning the title wasn't great. This one isn't exactly spellbinding is it ?

We have a side to our fan base that I always think of as the "Colin Schindler wing".

It's not Mancini per se they have a problem with. It's the idea of ANYBODY finally bringing success to our club. He ruined their little bubble of "I'm cool me, I support city, and they're like, you know, all rubbish and everything"

Probably every club has them.

It wouldn't have mattered one iota if we had appointed Pellers when we appointed Mancini. They would simply have hated HIM instead. Or mourinho, or guardiola. It wouldn't have mattered. Whoever killed off "little City" was always going to get it from them, sat behind their keyboards in the Admiral tracksuit tops.

For the record I adored Mancini, all the more so because in this modern day and age he wasn't afraid of or intimidated by anybody. Not his millionaire players. Not the size of the job he was brought into do. And not Any other managers.

He's gone though. I think it was a monumental mistake to sack him the way we did. We sent a message out to all the (present and future) city players that "YOU are bigger than the club. And the manager"

We're paying the price for that this season as well.

Fuerza Pelligrini, but Mancini will ALWAYS be "the one"

Forget those that a bitter towards him , those people don't like themselves either.

We will always be grateful to RM but it was Mancini who undid Mancini no one else not even his misses or his father.

In a way the way he went is the way he would want to go so you should be pleased for him.

Its his nature and he knows he will always get another job sooner or later.

He gets alot of milage in the media as a result which he seems to thrive on.

The only thing that pissed me off is that those not in his camp bottled the cup final to give him the send off he didn't deserve.

As for player power as long as you don't piss on their chips in the media most of their ego's won't be dented to cause any unrest.

Certain players got a bit tired on RM telling the press so and so needs to improve each week after he either didn't tell it to them one on one or did as the case may be.
 
Re: Mancini on Sky talking about City

Kazzydeyna said:
jayblue said:
We loved him. He still loves us. Did his best and brought us success. End of story. Don't get the ill feeling between fans towards him. His season after winning the title wasn't great. This one isn't exactly spellbinding is it ?

We have a side to our fan base that I always think of as the "Colin Schindler wing".

It's not Mancini per se they have a problem with. It's the idea of ANYBODY finally bringing success to our club. He ruined their little bubble of "I'm cool me, I support city, and they're like, you know, all rubbish and everything"

Probably every club has them.

It wouldn't have mattered one iota if we had appointed Pellers when we appointed Mancini. They would simply have hated HIM instead. Or mourinho, or guardiola. It wouldn't have mattered. Whoever killed off "little City" was always going to get it from them, sat behind their keyboards in the Admiral tracksuit tops.

For the record I adored Mancini, all the more so because in this modern day and age he wasn't afraid of or intimidated by anybody. Not his millionaire players. Not the size of the job he was brought into do. And not Any other managers.

He's gone though. I think it was a monumental mistake to sack him the way we did. We sent a message out to all the (present and future) city players that "YOU are bigger than the club. And the manager"

We're paying the price for that this season as well.

Fuerza Pelligrini, but Mancini will ALWAYS be "the one"

Cool story but 5 mins of searching your posts has you down as exactly what you accuse others of being lol.

Shall we tell everyone what you have wrote about our double winning boss in the past?
 
Re: Mancini on Sky talking about City

Prestwich_Blue said:
Mancini was like a girl you go out with who's fun and wild but you know she's not settling down material. You have some great times together and she's tremendous in bed, but can be really volatile and you're never quite sure what she's up to when she's not with you.

You'll always have the memories that put a smile on your face and she made a man of you but you know that she's not really someone for the long term.

Summed up perfectly. Bobby had no bigger advocate than me, was the right man at the right time and played a key part in our clubs resurgence.

While I'll always have a tremendous liking and respect for the man, we've moved on.
 
Re: Mancini on Sky talking about City

Davs 19 said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
Mancini was like a girl you go out with who's fun and wild but you know she's not settling down material. You have some great times together and she's tremendous in bed, but can be really volatile and you're never quite sure what she's up to when she's not with you.

You'll always have the memories that put a smile on your face and she made a man of you but you know that she's not really someone for the long term.

Summed up perfectly. Bobby had no bigger advocate than me, was the right man at the right time and played a key part in our clubs resurgence.

While I'll always have a tremendous liking and respect for the man, we've moved on.

Both very good posts. We have moved on but don't anyone try and tell me pellers is an upgrade on bobby. It's pretty obvious he's not.
 
Re: Mancini on Sky talking about City

de niro said:
Davs 19 said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
Mancini was like a girl you go out with who's fun and wild but you know she's not settling down material. You have some great times together and she's tremendous in bed, but can be really volatile and you're never quite sure what she's up to when she's not with you.

You'll always have the memories that put a smile on your face and she made a man of you but you know that she's not really someone for the long term.

Summed up perfectly. Bobby had no bigger advocate than me, was the right man at the right time and played a key part in our clubs resurgence.

While I'll always have a tremendous liking and respect for the man, we've moved on.

Both very good posts. We have moved on but don't anyone try and tell me pellers is an upgrade on bobby. It's pretty obvious he's not.

Despite a double in his first season, qualification for the last 16 of the CL twice, a win % of 65 compared to Bobs 59 and all done with a lot less spent?
 
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I get the impression that Mancini is oblivious to the fact that he rubs up players the wrong way To him its just standard manager/player interaction, managers are not meant to be popular with the players - "eez normal"

Apparently Inter have made an offer to Milner, a player who has been widely reported as one of those that fell out with Mancini. It must not bother Mancini at all.
 
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cibaman said:
I get the impression that Mancini is oblivious to the fact that he rubs up players the wrong way To him its just standard manager/player interaction, managers are not meant to be popular with the players - "eez normal"

Apparently Inter have made an offer to Milner, a player who has been widely reported as one of those that fell out with Mancini. It must not bother Mancini at all.

He has not much to spend at Inter and is looking for one or two bargains. Yaya and Milner would be on top a few misguided bargain basement lists.
 
Re: Mancini on Sky talking about City

cibaman said:
I get the impression that Mancini is oblivious to the fact that he rubs up players the wrong way To him its just standard manager/player interaction, managers are not meant to be popular with the players - "eez normal"

Apparently Inter have made an offer to Milner, a player who has been widely reported as one of those that fell out with Mancini. It must not bother Mancini at all.

Some players are the same as well look at Keane to name one of many.

Its always a judgment call some players fall out with managers and it doesn't effect their on field performance in fact for some it spurs them on for others they drop their level and put emotion ahead of professionalism.

In Milner's case it might prevent him from going to Inter but I think you are right it doesn't bother RM at all outside the fact he has a player he knows something about who wasn't good enough for him to be a regular but might be good enough at a side like Inter.

Personally I don't think he suited for Serie A.
 
Re: Mancini on Sky talking about City

blueinsa said:
de niro said:
Davs 19 said:
Summed up perfectly. Bobby had no bigger advocate than me, was the right man at the right time and played a key part in our clubs resurgence.

While I'll always have a tremendous liking and respect for the man, we've moved on.

Both very good posts. We have moved on but don't anyone try and tell me pellers is an upgrade on bobby. It's pretty obvious he's not.

Despite a double in his first season, qualification for the last 16 of the CL twice, a win % of 65 compared to Bobs 59 and all done with a lot less spent?
A lot less spent? That's an odd point to use.

The £38m on Aguero, £27m on Dzeko and £25m on Yaya/Silva/Nasri who were all pivotal to our success last season were bought under Mancini and so Pellegrini had no need to spend such amounts on other players.

Generalising it like you've done is a tad unfair but I assume you know that.
 
Re: Mancini on Sky talking about City

pudge said:
blueinsa said:
de niro said:
Both very good posts. We have moved on but don't anyone try and tell me pellers is an upgrade on bobby. It's pretty obvious he's not.

Despite a double in his first season, qualification for the last 16 of the CL twice, a win % of 65 compared to Bobs 59 and all done with a lot less spent?
A lot less spent? That's an odd point to use.

The £38m on Aguero, £27m on Dzeko and £25m on Yaya/Silva/Nasri who were all pivotal to our success last season were bought under Mancini and so Pellegrini had no need to spend such amounts on other players.

Generalising it like you've done is a tad unfair but I assume you know that.

Of course RM will point out that it was he who made these players starlets and what they what they mean to the team even now.

Little point toeing the line either way.
 
Re: Mancini on Sky talking about City

blueinsa said:
de niro said:
Davs 19 said:
Summed up perfectly. Bobby had no bigger advocate than me, was the right man at the right time and played a key part in our clubs resurgence.

While I'll always have a tremendous liking and respect for the man, we've moved on.

Both very good posts. We have moved on but don't anyone try and tell me pellers is an upgrade on bobby. It's pretty obvious he's not.

Despite a double in his first season, qualification for the last 16 of the CL twice, a win % of 65 compared to Bobs 59 and all done with a lot less spent?

To be fair he inherited a side that had won the league and cup recently and finished 2nd and in a cup final the previous season whereas Mancini inherited a side that weren't really challenging for honours. You would therefore expect him to have a higher win ratio.

As the spine of his side were already here it is also hardly surprising that he hasn't spent as much. He has spent money though and i'm far from convinced that he has created a better side than the one that won it in 2012.
 
Re: Mancini on Sky talking about City

Prestwich_Blue said:
Mancini was like a girl you go out with who's fun and wild but you know she's not settling down material. You have some great times together and she's tremendous in bed, but can be really volatile and you're never quite sure what she's up to when she's not with you.

You'll always have the memories that put a smile on your face and she made a man of you but you know that she's not really someone for the long term.

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Im going to back out of this thread now as it will go like every other has gone......round and round and round.

Bob did a great job and will rightly go in the history books.
 
Re: Mancini on Sky talking about City

de niro said:
Davs 19 said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
Mancini was like a girl you go out with who's fun and wild but you know she's not settling down material. You have some great times together and she's tremendous in bed, but can be really volatile and you're never quite sure what she's up to when she's not with you.

You'll always have the memories that put a smile on your face and she made a man of you but you know that she's not really someone for the long term.

Summed up perfectly. Bobby had no bigger advocate than me, was the right man at the right time and played a key part in our clubs resurgence.

While I'll always have a tremendous liking and respect for the man, we've moved on.

Both very good posts. We have moved on but don't anyone try and tell me pellers is an upgrade on bobby. It's pretty obvious he's not.
I shouldn't have to tell a fellow mod and Bluemoon's leading WUM that we don't want to get into a Mancini v Pellegrini debate again. In their different ways, they're both very good managers but neither are without their faults.

I don't agree with kazzydeyna that people who saw Mancini's faults are of the Colin Shindler tendency. No City fan should or will ever forget or be less than grateful for where he took us but neither should they underestimate the issues behind the scenes that were of his making. There was utter carnage behind the scenes and unfortunately something had to give. That's certainly high among the reasons why he would never be back while the current ownership is in place.

But when all that's said and done, January 2010 to May 2013 saw some of the most memorable moments of my not inconsiderable years as a City fan. Perhaps very few, if any, other managers could have done what he did for us at that time so he was probably the right man in the right place at the right time.
 
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Mancini was the best thing to happen to city for 30 odd years (apart from the sheik's dosh) , he put together a team to knock the rags of their perch , he will always be remembered with affection . His man management skills were debatable , he indulged Mario but was confrontational with several other senior players , and this cost him his job. But Roberto deserves huge respect , he put us on the map and if he ever did come back with a visiting team , he would get the rapturous welcome he thoroughly deserves.
 
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blueinsa said:
Bob did a great job and will rightly go in the history books.


I think that's something we can hopefully all agree on.

Anyway that's the past and now we should be looking to the present/future and adding exciting new chapters to our history.
 
Re: Mancini on Sky talking about City

KnaresboroughBlue said:
blueinsa said:
Bob did a great job and will rightly go in the history books.


I think that's something we can hopefully all agree on.

Anyway that's the past and now we should be looking to the present/future and adding exciting new chapters to our history.

Agreed. Its so easy to fall into the trap of thinking we have been at this winning malarky for a long time now but we havn't.

We havn't even started yet!
 
Re: Mancini on Sky talking about City

blueinsa said:
de niro said:
Davs 19 said:
Summed up perfectly. Bobby had no bigger advocate than me, was the right man at the right time and played a key part in our clubs resurgence.

While I'll always have a tremendous liking and respect for the man, we've moved on.

Both very good posts. We have moved on but don't anyone try and tell me pellers is an upgrade on bobby. It's pretty obvious he's not.

Despite a double in his first season, qualification for the last 16 of the CL twice, a win % of 65 compared to Bobs 59 and all done with a lot less spent?

bob wouldn't have surrendered the fa cup and would most certainly have qualified from the that CL group much sooner. spending wise aprt from pellers being restricted by ffp bob's starting point was much worse.
 

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