robin van persie (continued)

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Ffs buy him, even then loan him to juve or something just buy the fucker and broken face is going for a dip.

Just had a read on spuds forums and suffice to say they are not being to lenient towards the gunners about this.

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ah yes, the old "get them young and make them top class so they perform in 4 years time" theory - works brilliantly, until they decide they are growing faster than the club and Manchester isn't all that rainy after all"

Tbh monkey mate, it can rain a bit but maybe they got free brollies chucked in the deal.
I heard that's why Kaka bottled it to, we were not willing to go that far.
 
The man to trust at Arsenal is not RVP, Usmanov or Kroenke... it's Wenger
By Des Kelly
PUBLISHED: 00:18, 7 July 2012 | UPDATED: 00:18, 7 July 2012

Arsene Wenger is not the problem at Arsenal. He never has been. He never will be. The Arsenal manager is one of the few men at the top of the game in this country who still appears to have a grasp on reality.
He is loyal to his club, even when billionaire oafs banging on the boardroom door clearly do not deserve his discretion. Wenger is loyal to his players, too, although many have let him down.

Above all he is loyal to his principles and his beliefs, ignoring the fickle whining from ungrateful fans and the tubby, executive-box clowns spluttering their chin-wobbling indignation over Robin van Persie’s departure into a glass of Chablis.No!No! No! How can we lose him?’ they cry like giddy, teenage Justin Bieber fans. They demand ‘Wenger must answer for this — or go!’, summoning up all their ignorance and parading it on Twitter. These people are cretins. They should be ignored.
The problem at Arsenal lies all around Wenger. He is beseiged by squabbles in the boardroom, ungrateful whelps in the dressing room and idiotic comment in the chatrooms.

Van Persie is trying to pull off a very obvious con trick. The Dutchman, crowned Footballer of the Year after delivering for one season out of an injury-plagued eight, has announced Arsenal ‘do not match my ambition’.
Strange that. They certainly seemed to be sufficient for his desires when he was lying on the treatment table collecting the cash. But not any more, it seems.
‘Ambition makes you look pretty ugly, kicking squealing Gucci little piggy,’ declared Radiohead. And that is where Van Persie is now. For all his attempts to dress his exit up as some noble search for the Holy Grail he has so far been denied, it’s still pretty ugly.
He has no right to tell Wenger how to run the club. The Arsenal manager gave him his chance when Feyenoord dumped a young Van Persie on the transfer list for being a cocky pain in the backside.

The Dutchman has now repaid that debt by effectively trashing the quality of Wenger’s summer signings, Germany striker Lukas Podolski, a 27-year-old striker with more than 100 caps, and the France international and Ligue 1 top scorer, Olivier Giroud, for a combined total of £24million.
By any measure, that’s great business. And it is also worth reminding everyone at this point that these excellent acquisitions have been added to a squad that finished third in the table last season.

That’s right, poor Arsenal. They finished ‘only’ third in the most lucrative and competitive league in the world, behind a Manchester City that spent more money than Croesus to claim the title.

Van Persie can do whatever he likes with his own career. He can refuse to sign new contracts, play for whoever he chooses, earn as much as he can and good luck to him in all that.
But to pose and posture as if he is being forced out of the club by their lack of ambition is insulting hogwash at this time. Wenger has undoubtedly bought well this summer and there may be more to come but it sounds as if Van Persie made his decision to let his contract expire long before Podolski and Giroud arrived.

‘Financial terms aren’t my priority,’ claimed the Arsenal captain, however he seems to be chasing the money — we all know that — because it’s sure to offer him a better chance of winning a medal.
Just because City have more money than any club in the world, that does not make Wenger less ambitious. Maybe he is just realistic. If Wenger decided Van Persie was worth less than City (or Real Madrid, or whoever) were prepared to offer, then who’s to say he is wrong?
For argument’s sake, what if Van Persie indicated he could get £240,000 a week elsewhere — a substantial hike from his current £100,000 — and Wenger took one look at that sum and decided he could not bring himself to hand over an annual rise of £7.3m a year? Would you say he was crazy or quite sane? Personally, I’d applaud him.
But, shamefully, the club’s second-largest shareholder Alisher Usmanov jumped on the RVP bandwagon in an attempt to profit from the unrest. He seized the opportunity to stir the pot at Arsenal by hitting out at the principal owner Stan Kroenke. But, since Usmanov has not been given a place on the board despite his 30 per cent stake, we can guess what his motives might be.

The conflict behind the scenes suggests the manager may be fighting with one hand behind his back. But, in all of this, there is one man I would trust to have the best interests of the club at heart.

It is not Van Persie. It is not Kroenke. It is not Usmanov. It is Wenger.


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pmsl is Des Kelly an Arsenal fan by any chance ?.

Des go write a blog you petty man, newspapers are for new's not for reporters to abuse their position and make rants about issues obviously close to their heart.

That is unless you can be objective which well respected reporters do.

I do not read the Daily Mail and this reminded me why.

3/10 Des, poor.
 
It's a shame that people can't see past the end of their noses sometimes.

Bob doesn't rate Dzeko, that should be obvious to any blue who watched us throughout last season.

I like Dzeko, and he is a decent player that will do well at another club, but he isn't the kind of player that Bob wants to rely on when we attempt to compete on all levels.

RvP is the kind of player that can happily play up top on his own and win a game with one swoosh of his left peg which is exactly what Bob wants in his forward line.

Dzeko knows he will always be down the list when at City and hence I'd be astonished if he wasn't actively searching for another club - imo he'll go to either Juve or Dortmund.
 
Rammy Blue said:
It's a shame that people can't see past the end of their noses sometimes.

Bob doesn't rate Dzeko, that should be obvious to any blue who watched us throughout last season.

I like Dzeko, and he is a decent player that will do well at another club, but he isn't the kind of player that Bob wants to rely on when we attempt to compete on all levels.

RvP is the kind of player that can happily play up top on his own and win a game with one swoosh of his left peg which is exactly what Bob wants in his forward line.

Dzeko knows he will always be down the list when at City and hence I'd be astonished if he wasn't actively searching for another club - imo he'll go to either Juve or Dortmund.
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Should Dzeko leave will the board receive a transfer fee for the Bosnian army we have amassed over the last 18 months? Or will the return of some wasted bandwidth suffice?
 
Rammy Blue said:
It's a shame that people can't see past the end of their noses sometimes.

Bob doesn't rate Dzeko, that should be obvious to any blue who watched us throughout last season.

I like Dzeko, and he is a decent player that will do well at another club, but he isn't the kind of player that Bob wants to rely on when we attempt to compete on all levels.

RvP is the kind of player that can happily play up top on his own and win a game with one swoosh of his left peg which is exactly what Bob wants in his forward line.

Dzeko knows he will always be down the list when at City and hence I'd be astonished if he wasn't actively searching for another club - imo he'll go to either Juve or Dortmund.
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Now thats a breathe of fresh air! Nothing like a bit of common sense and plain speaking.

I think part of the attachment to Edin is an emotional one. He played a significant part in an end of season miracle, and I don't think that many on the Forum will ever forget that. He also seems like a really nice guy, and I am sure that side contributes to harmony in the dressing room.

However that attachment should not overlook his fall down the pecking order as the season went on. This is why, as Rammy points out, the Boss clearly will not rely upon him at the highest level.

And this is why RVP is being vigorously pursued.
 
Do we need RVP?

Is van Persie good enough for City? He had a poor Euro 2012, tho' he did score a cracker with his right foot (unbelievably). And do we need another striker? Is he better than what we've got?
I only ask the question.
 
Rammy Blue said:
It's a shame that people can't see past the end of their noses sometimes.

Bob doesn't rate Dzeko, that should be obvious to any blue who watched us throughout last season.

I like Dzeko, and he is a decent player that will do well at another club, but he isn't the kind of player that Bob wants to rely on when we attempt to compete on all levels.

RvP is the kind of player that can happily play up top on his own and win a game with one swoosh of his left peg which is exactly what Bob wants in his forward line.

Dzeko knows he will always be down the list when at City and hence I'd be astonished if he wasn't actively searching for another club - imo he'll go to either Juve or Dortmund.
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I hope you're wrong mate, I too like him and think a fit and confident Dzeko is a great asset to us, but tbh can't argue with any of that, I think that's exactly what RM sees, my only concern is what has RM seen that he couldn't have been aware of before he came to us ?
 
Re: Do we need RVP?

Nah, we don't need him but I would buy him, sit him on the bench to bring on now and again maybe,.............. at least that way he wouldn't be able to score against us!! ...................... (tongue in cheek lads, tongue in cheek)
 
Re: Do we need RVP?

Yes, Tevez and Dzeko are not in Bobs plans.

Before the pitchforks and flaming torches are brought to bare on me...IMO.
 
Re: Do we need RVP?

No, only good thing in this deal is some people involved may get a hefty commission for this unnecessary buy imo.
 
Dirty Harry said:
Rammy Blue said:
It's a shame that people can't see past the end of their noses sometimes.

Bob doesn't rate Dzeko, that should be obvious to any blue who watched us throughout last season.

I like Dzeko, and he is a decent player that will do well at another club, but he isn't the kind of player that Bob wants to rely on when we attempt to compete on all levels.

RvP is the kind of player that can happily play up top on his own and win a game with one swoosh of his left peg which is exactly what Bob wants in his forward line.

Dzeko knows he will always be down the list when at City and hence I'd be astonished if he wasn't actively searching for another club - imo he'll go to either Juve or Dortmund.
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I hope you're wrong mate, I too like him and think a fit and confident Dzeko is a great asset to us, but tbh can't argue with any of that, I think that's exactly what RM sees, my only concern is what has RM seen that he couldn't have been aware of before he came to us ?
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There's no reason to not believe that Dzeko would be a better player for us next season, plenty of players take a while to fully adjust to the Prem.

However, that said, I remember how poor Edin looked for the few months we had him after his signing in Jan the previous season. We all thought that he would be a better player last season having had those few months to adjust yet far too often last season he looked like a clueless lump that couldn't trap a bag of cement and didn't have quick enough feet to get him out of tight spots when he looked far too cumbersome for the limited time you get on the ball in the Prem.

I think the feeling is mutual between Bob and Dzeko, no hard feelings and he's a decent lad that we won't have a problem keeping if needs must, however better for all if he moves on to a club that is better set up for him. A club preferably not in the prem as I have no doubt he could score 20+ in a team like Spuds or the scum.<br /><br />-- Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:42 am --<br /><br />
allan harper said:
What's the chances of Arsenal excepting our first bid for Van Perise, slim at best I'd say.
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Highly unlikely mate, however as per it will depend on who else decides to chuck a decent bid in. Let's be honest, we've got no chance until we go past 20mil as I'm sure if it was a price in the teens then plenty of clubs will fancy their chances.

Wages are the killer for most clubs when added to the fee so I'm sure we'll get him if we want him, I'd expect us to go public with a bid of 15-18mil first and then end up paying about 22mil.
 
Re: Do we need RVP?

Tevez, Balotelli and Dzeko were all inconsistent last season, RVP wasn't.

He was the Premier Leagues leading goal scorer.

His movement, control and passing are exceptional.

A move to City will strike fear into our opponents.

...no we don't need him.
 
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