Rochdale v. Mini-me Rags

[Manc1968]

what utter rubbish!!. Like it or not they decided that Glazer taking over was the final straw. Some completely changed and have never set foot in OT since, others flit between the 2, others use FC or Utd as their 2nd team. Reasons vary from SKY TV, prawn sandwich brigade, new age fans, ticket prices, players lack of reality, Utd pissing them off with their general attitude to the everyday fan and or changing of football kick off times to suit TV.
To give up going to one of the biggest and most succesful clubs in the world especially when it is on your doorstep is a step that while many dont agree with should be respected.
A lot of Utd fans completely disagree with it and this issue has split the core utd support where once it was "all as one" and "us against the world" attitudes.
As for your references about the "red army" again rubbish...trouble follows them because inbreds from non league teams think it is the opportunity to have a pop at "Utd"
anybody who attended the FC Utd vs Maine Rd game a couple of years ago will prove that it was no place where the "red army" congregated to attack women and kids etc. It wa simply 2 non league sides linked to big clubs having a "local derby"
Any team, that grows from nothing to an average of 2-2500 fans, who have sold 4000 for the cup game at rochdale deserve some recognition no matter how begrudging.
Good luck to them and all fans who do "their own thing" rather than toe the SKY modern day football mantra which is slowly killing the game we ALL love

Such absolute crap... and the sort of tosh the apologists always come out with.

Respect? Respect for what? For turning their backs on the club they supported? Yeah, respect!

I've suffered more crap directors, boards, managers than any sane man should suffer, and yet not once, not ONCE, have I ever thought of turning my back on my club.

But all the "One Love" sheep couldn't wait to start up again, seeing as Chelsea had started to dominate and the Rags were no longer the biggest players.

Surprisingly, now the rags have turned it round again, so many of the mini-me rags are back again supporting their "One Love" team.

Funny, but when I was watching City in the late 90's stumble about in the third division, I never thought of supporting someone else... in fact I had a great time following my team to all the smaller grounds in the country, having a ball of a time, while the rags were sweeping all before them.

I remember saying to some rags at the time that they'd never understood how much love can be generated in times of crisis, but to them it was just about trophies. And it still is, for both sets of fans.

Now we have FCUM's on here taking the moral high ground that they love football for just the pleasure of it rather than the trophies... but you fuckers weren't saying that when you were doing the treble though were you?

And for the crap about all pally and chums together having a jolly boys outing... I've been to a few FCUM matches and believe me the level of intimidation, threats, swagger and arrogance is akin to the glory days of Doc's Red Army when you bullied all the small towns of the second divison at the time... just like the Fuckems do know.

The game against Maine Road kicked off, or weren't you there?

I weary with rags apologising for the FCUM, that they should be respected.

If you want respect, then dump the Rag allegiances, support your club and stop hanging on the coat tails for vicarious success. Stand on your own two feet rather than living for the fall back position of going back and supporting the rags.

Fuck me, it''s bad enough that they jumped ship the first time, but it must be embarrassing that so many jump ship back to OT for the success as well. If the Glazers were the "final straw" how come so many still attend?

I know a fair bit about the running of the club and I know that the vast majority are simply rags in pub league clothing.

Oh, and taking 4,000 to Rochdale.. I'm surprised it's not 40,000... and I think that sums up what FCUM really are.

Hypocrites, the fucking lot of 'em...

think you need to remove that chip mate!!
you question people's loyalty (Jumping ship, turning their backs etc)
I am not making excuses for FC Utd and their fans. I am merely stating that some chose for various reasons to move on.
Tell me how many went to FC and have no stopped going because in your opinion Utd started winning again? I dont know anybody that has gone that way. The ones who still go to Utd have always gone to Utd and always will. To them it is an extension of the Utd family. Others openly refuse to go to OT until change or until football changes. How can you criticise these people when they stick to their principles even to a point when some Utd fans who they stood shoulder to shoulder with, are openly calling them and in some cases abusing them. PS - I thought Utd were in decline anyway so surely going off your thoughts FC Utd would be gaining more support not less.

Yes I have been to FC matches (not many) and had a good day out. Not because I follow them but because there was no other football on that day. Do other football fans not go and watch other local teams on occasions?
I have never seen them go out to be intimidating to other fans. They drink, get drunk, have a sing song (yes about City), how does that differ from any other fan. It's all banter at the end of the day. Like i said, they get local scallies from other non league teams/areas thinking they can attack "Utd".

You decided to stay with City. Good on you and i am not questioning your on any of my mates who are City fans loyalty. I along with many red mates have stuck by Utd regardless. Yes we have been successful but we was there when we were shit and will be there whenever we are shit again. Its what me, you and what a lot of football fans do. However others have different views.
At the end of the day its all about personal choice and opinion, and these are like arseholes..everybody has one.
People at FC are not taking the moral high ground, they are simply geting on with their own thing
Like i said, I am no FC Utd fan but for the life of me never imagined a 6 pager from City fans about a small club that has no relevance to you

 

[blue cigar]

want to be part of a real football club,like they used to be? then be a part of confused united fc,football how it used to be,no pandering to the tv companies changing kick off times to suit them...a football club for the people run by the people....
spot on soulboy..the bigger it gets the harder it will fall,cant wait.

up the dale

 

[Soulboy]

Such absolute crap... and the sort of tosh the apologists always come out with.

Respect? Respect for what? For turning their backs on the club they supported? Yeah, respect!

I've suffered more crap directors, boards, managers than any sane man should suffer, and yet not once, not ONCE, have I ever thought of turning my back on my club.

But all the "One Love" sheep couldn't wait to start up again, seeing as Chelsea had started to dominate and the Rags were no longer the biggest players.

Surprisingly, now the rags have turned it round again, so many of the mini-me rags are back again supporting their "One Love" team.

Funny, but when I was watching City in the late 90's stumble about in the third division, I never thought of supporting someone else... in fact I had a great time following my team to all the smaller grounds in the country, having a ball of a time, while the rags were sweeping all before them.

I remember saying to some rags at the time that they'd never understood how much love can be generated in times of crisis, but to them it was just about trophies. And it still is, for both sets of fans.

Now we have FCUM's on here taking the moral high ground that they love football for just the pleasure of it rather than the trophies... but you fuckers weren't saying that when you were doing the treble though were you?

And for the crap about all pally and chums together having a jolly boys outing... I've been to a few FCUM matches and believe me the level of intimidation, threats, swagger and arrogance is akin to the glory days of Doc's Red Army when you bullied all the small towns of the second divison at the time... just like the Fuckems do know.

The game against Maine Road kicked off, or weren't you there?

I weary with rags apologising for the FCUM, that they should be respected.

If you want respect, then dump the Rag allegiances, support your club and stop hanging on the coat tails for vicarious success. Stand on your own two feet rather than living for the fall back position of going back and supporting the rags.

Fuck me, it''s bad enough that they jumped ship the first time, but it must be embarrassing that so many jump ship back to OT for the success as well. If the Glazers were the "final straw" how come so many still attend?

I know a fair bit about the running of the club and I know that the vast majority are simply rags in pub league clothing.

Oh, and taking 4,000 to Rochdale.. I'm surprised it's not 40,000... and I think that sums up what FCUM really are.

Hypocrites, the fucking lot of 'em...

think you need to remove that chip mate!!
you question people's loyalty (Jumping ship, turning their backs etc)
I am not making excuses for FC Utd and their fans. I am merely stating that some chose for various reasons to move on.
Tell me how many went to FC and have no stopped going because in your opinion Utd started winning again? I dont know anybody that has gone that way. The ones who still go to Utd have always gone to Utd and always will. To them it is an extension of the Utd family. Others openly refuse to go to OT until change or until football changes. How can you criticise these people when they stick to their principles even to a point when some Utd fans who they stood shoulder to shoulder with, are openly calling them and in some cases abusing them. PS - I thought Utd were in decline anyway so surely going off your thoughts FC Utd would be gaining more support not less.

Yes I have been to FC matches (not many) and had a good day out. Not because I follow them but because there was no other football on that day. Do other football fans not go and watch other local teams on occasions?
I have never seen them go out to be intimidating to other fans. They drink, get drunk, have a sing song (yes about City), how does that differ from any other fan. It's all banter at the end of the day. Like i said, they get local scallies from other non league teams/areas thinking they can attack "Utd".

You decided to stay with City. Good on you and i am not questioning your on any of my mates who are City fans loyalty. I along with many red mates have stuck by Utd regardless. Yes we have been successful but we was there when we were shit and will be there whenever we are shit again. Its what me, you and what a lot of football fans do. However others have different views.
At the end of the day its all about personal choice and opinion, and these are like arseholes..everybody has one.
People at FC are not taking the moral high ground, they are simply geting on with their own thing
Like i said, I am no FC Utd fan but for the life of me never imagined a 6 pager from City fans about a small club that has no relevance to you

To be honest, I'm really please it got to six pages.

I started it off by stating that I was going to the game on Friday, and many Blues have come on to tear into FCUM in response to most of our perceptions about what they are all about.

I thought it was just me that thought they were a bunch of weasly, spineless, retro-obsessed, hypocritical twats... so it's nice to know there are many, many others!

And I have no problem with you being a rag. I have no problem with someone being a FCUM fan... I just can't stand the ones who can't make their minds up and support both as a comfort blanket. And I know a fair few of them...

I was brought up to support a club... not a fucking selection of them depending on the prevailing circumstances!

 

[bronco]

sorry to come to this late - but i have just read some bollox in the papers about fcum almost refusing the espn cash tonight because it is morally wrong ? this is the club who rode roughshod over every non league club in the manchester area by "buying" their way through the divisions because of there gullible ex rags fanbase - no other reason at all . what they have done is no better than what chelsea , city or yernited have done in recent years , typical double standards rags fans . good luck to rochdale tonight

 

[Stretfordian_Blue]

Many years ago, a rag who would sadly later go on to become my brother in law (from Stockport, oh the irony) fetched up at the former Palace nightclub in Levenshulme with his mate 'Andy', a speccy, acne-riddled creature with lank , greasy hair, who proudly introduced himself as 'one of the top United fanzine writers'. A complete twat who I very nearly slapped later in the evening when he kept banging on to me about City fans 'disrespecting' the Munich air disaster, — and then denied outright that City goalkeeping legend Frank Swift also died in the crash. I was only dissuaded from doing so by said Rag-in-law and my brother.
I think this twat is now the chief executive if FSCUM

I'm 11, I'm not a rag but my uncle is Andy Walsh, general manager and wears glasses and was a top fanzine writer so please be careful what your writing.

 

[gafferdanny]

I hope Rochdale win because at the end of the day, they are rags. I don't like how we have scatter gun pumped silly money in to the transfer market (another topic. I know. I know) but the fact is it is the team I support. That's the difference between us and the rags. When we were down we still went because we love the team. It is the team that once had Bell and Lee and Summerbee in it, plus Young and Doyle and Book. The team changes but in name it is the same. And that's the committment you make - that it may change, for better or worse, and sometimes for the right/wrong reasons, but you stick it out.

FC My arse. Up the Dale!

 

[Ash of Ashton]

Many years ago, a rag who would sadly later go on to become my brother in law (from Stockport, oh the irony) fetched up at the former Palace nightclub in Levenshulme with his mate 'Andy', a speccy, acne-riddled creature with lank , greasy hair, who proudly introduced himself as 'one of the top United fanzine writers'. A complete twat who I very nearly slapped later in the evening when he kept banging on to me about City fans 'disrespecting' the Munich air disaster, — and then denied outright that City goalkeeping legend Frank Swift also died in the crash. I was only dissuaded from doing so by said Rag-in-law and my brother.
I think this twat is now the chief executive if FSCUM

I'm 11, I'm not a rag but my uncle is Andy Walsh, general manager and wears glasses and was a top fanzine writer so please be careful what your writing.

ha ha ha ha!!!!!! comedy gold

 

[Jah]

I'm 11, I'm not a rag but my uncle is Andy Walsh, general manager and wears glasses and was a top fanzine writer so please be careful what your writing.

ha ha ha ha!!!!!! comedy gold

bahaha! genius!

 

[Boots_]

I've said it before but still people like Oliver Holt in the Mirror keep extolling them as 'football's conscience'. They are NOT a breakaway club. A breakaway club is AFC Wimbledon, they have severed all ties with the 'parent' club. You would never get AFC Wimbledon fans cheering on MK Dons and vice versa.
Not so with FC United of Bury. They are simply a Happy Shopper version of the 'real thing'. Their fans still support 'Big United' as they laughably call them. They have not 'broken away'. They have just decided they don't want to pay Premier League admission money, but they'll still watch them on ther box. Some even go to watch both sides.
They are effectively a franchise (in the retail sense, rather than the American sport definition) of the rags operating in non-league football. What are the chances of FC United of Dublin or Singapore in the future?
They are not, as they try to portray themselves, as rebels of conscience or social activitists, the sons of Peterloo. They are a bunch of disloyal, pompous, self-important gobshites and splitters, formed by empire-building fanzine writers who want to look important but found their egos and status bruised when organisations like MUST stole their limelight.
They are watched by obese twats who long for the days when 'The Red Army' used to kick off in shopping centres in Plymouth and Southampton, and so bring their black Primark-clad, rodent-featured offspring along to show them how 'United' can terrorise long-standing, traditional non-league clubs with a real identity and history. You know, the very ones they could have gone to watch if all they really yearned for was a return to 'proper' grass roots football. We are not short on non-league clubs in Greater Manchester and I'm sure the likes of Trafford Borough or Salford City would have been grateful for the extra support.
But then they couldn't guarantee they would win every week, which is what they demanded. So they had to set up a club vastly richer than its rivals so they could steamroller teams in the lower levels of the football pyramid. After all, there's no point watching your team if they're not top of the league, is there? After all, Chelsea were winning everything in the Premier League at that time and it was no fun for a plastic, so lets have a new team that wins all the time instead.
They are a joke

what utter rubbish!!. Like it or not they decided that Glazer taking over was the final straw. Some completely changed and have never set foot in OT since, others flit between the 2, others use FC or Utd as their 2nd team. Reasons vary from SKY TV, prawn sandwich brigade, new age fans, ticket prices, players lack of reality, Utd pissing them off with their general attitude to the everyday fan and or changing of football kick off times to suit TV.
To give up going to one of the biggest and most succesful clubs in the world especially when it is on your doorstep is a step that while many dont agree with should be respected.
A lot of Utd fans completely disagree with it and this issue has split the core utd support where once it was "all as one" and "us against the world" attitudes.
As for your references about the "red army" again rubbish...trouble follows them because inbreds from non league teams think it is the opportunity to have a pop at "Utd"
anybody who attended the FC Utd vs Maine Rd game a couple of years ago will prove that it was no place where the "red army" congregated to attack women and kids etc. It wa simply 2 non league sides linked to big clubs having a "local derby"
Any team, that grows from nothing to an average of 2-2500 fans, who have sold 4000 for the cup game at rochdale deserve some recognition no matter how begrudging.
Good luck to them and all fans who do "their own thing" rather than toe the SKY modern day football mantra which is slowly killing the game we ALL love

Or if we go with the facts, started with over 3000 fans for the first (and very successful) season and now as a mid-table team average around 1700. I wonder how the on-field fortunes of Big Utd have changed during that period?

 

[bluemanc]

OF MANCHESTER
Still got the same Geographical problems i see.
If Bill Gates had took them over FCRags of Bury would not exist that's the bottom line. History tells you they have ALWAYS had a mega rich owner or as in martin edwards a man who through greed set them on the way to become what they are today.
The proper rag fans are those that binned it when Edwards took the rags public in 1991 & they ripped Football Club off the club badge.
No respect whatsoever, only contemp.
PS.they agreed to change the game to Fri for a big fat TV fee, it wont be long before they are whoring themselves for a rich owner.