Romeo Lavia

[DaveyG]

He wont be first choice at city but he will at the dippers. Makes sense for him to want liverpool

 

[Blue_Lightsaber]

I can’t be the only one stumped by this. Is it just stubbornness? I trust Pep & co to know which players are good enough, but aside from seeing him and seeing he’s brilliant myself, I also know for a fact that Liverpool and Klopp, Pochettino and Chelsea etc know a good player when they see one - not to mention Kompany who sent him to us in the first place.

Genuinely I’m mystified!

It seems DM is the hardest spot for City to recruit for as over the last 7 years of Pep.. it's been a very exclusive club there.. Yaya, Fernandinho, Gundogan, Rodri. (practically all City legends)

Maybe the answer is simple.. Pep wants a different type of DM.. like Kalvin and Romeo could play DM really good for 99% of teams but not for us..

That's why I'm not really convinced Kalvin will just magically get good enough for us and I do think we need another DM (unless Perrone is trusted by Pep long term, but is not physically strong enough for the PL yet).

 

[Gaz (FMwkdsoul)]

It seems DM is the hardest spot for City to recruit for as over the last 7 years of Pep.. it's been a very exclusive club there.. Yaya, Fernandinho, Gundogan, Rodri.

Maybe the answer is simple.. Pep wants a different type of DM.. like Kalvin and Romeo could play DM really good for 99% of teams but not for us..

That's why I'm not really convinced Kalvin will just magically get good enough for us and I do think we need another DM (unless Perrone is trusted by Pep, but not physically strong enough yet for the PL).

Locatelli is up for grabs for half of lavia’s price if we were to dip,for a dm

 

[Xhavenjoe]

We couldnt stop them with any clause, we get a sell on and thats it. The player will always get a choice.

We had a buyback clause that doesn't kick in until 2024, for some reason

 

[PragueBlue]

The thing I don’t get is that we’re always competing with Liverpool, United, Chelsea etc for the same players. Every year.

This year, we need a CM with energy in midfield, spent a lot of time chasing Bellingham, Rice, looked at MacAllister etc.


But the one player those teams want, in a position we need, that we are for some reason not at all interested in, is Lavia, a quality, home grown (as far as regs count) player in the position we need, at a price we can afford and we get a sell on % so effectively it’s cheaper for us than anyone else.


I can’t be the only one stumped by this. Is it just stubbornness? I trust Pep & co to know which players are good enough, but aside from seeing him and seeing he’s brilliant myself, I also know for a fact that Liverpool and Klopp, Pochettino and Chelsea etc know a good player when they see one - not to mention Kompany who sent him to us in the first place.

Genuinely I’m mystified!

They know the player better than any of us and they clearly have a different opinion to you. From the little I have seen this season, I would probably agree with them.

It certainly won't be stubbornness.

 

[jaiguruKun]

The thing I don’t get is that we’re always competing with Liverpool, United, Chelsea etc for the same players. Every year.

This year, we need a CM with energy in midfield, spent a lot of time chasing Bellingham, Rice, looked at MacAllister etc.


But the one player those teams want, in a position we need, that we are for some reason not at all interested in, is Lavia, a quality, home grown (as far as regs count) player in the position we need, at a price we can afford and we get a sell on % so effectively it’s cheaper for us than anyone else.


I can’t be the only one stumped by this. Is it just stubbornness? I trust Pep & co to know which players are good enough, but aside from seeing him and seeing he’s brilliant myself, I also know for a fact that Liverpool and Klopp, Pochettino and Chelsea etc know a good player when they see one - not to mention Kompany who sent him to us in the first place.

Genuinely I’m mystified!

We don't need him. We're well stacked for DMs.
We could do with someone to replace Gundogan but Lavia isn't that player.

 

[IBlue]

The thing I don’t get is that we’re always competing with Liverpool, United, Chelsea etc for the same players. Every year.

This year, we need a CM with energy in midfield, spent a lot of time chasing Bellingham, Rice, looked at MacAllister etc.


But the one player those teams want, in a position we need, that we are for some reason not at all interested in, is Lavia, a quality, home grown (as far as regs count) player in the position we need, at a price we can afford and we get a sell on % so effectively it’s cheaper for us than anyone else.


I can’t be the only one stumped by this. Is it just stubbornness? I trust Pep & co to know which players are good enough, but aside from seeing him and seeing he’s brilliant myself, I also know for a fact that Liverpool and Klopp, Pochettino and Chelsea etc know a good player when they see one - not to mention Kompany who sent him to us in the first place.

Genuinely I’m mystified!

Perhaps watching the kid week in week out for 2 yrs, they may have a different opinion. They know this player better than the said managers

 

[Gaz (FMwkdsoul)]

We had a buyback clause that doesn't kick in until 2024, for some reason

Kid needed that stability and game time invested in his development, we don’t have it. Saints did, they just fucked the season.

 

[ninjamonkey]

We couldnt stop them with any clause, we get a sell on and thats it. The player will always get a choice.

Not one directly stopping it but we can certainly add first refusals giving us the option of bringing them back or if not that then bigger sell on clauses if they sell during a certain timeframe or even if they sell to a league rival etc. Plenty of things we can add to give ourselves a better deal should one of them end up on the verge of signing for a direct rival.

Southampton are potentially making near £30 million profit in 12 months. we sold him cheaply so that we could include buy back clauses that now look as though we are never going to even get the option of utilising and will see him end up at our biggest rival over the last 5 years. Mistakes have been made for that to happen, that will not have been the intention, which is fine, it can happen, we just have to learn and ensure we don't make it again anytime soon.

 

[PragueBlue]

Not one directly stopping it but we can certainly add first refusals giving us the option of bringing them back or if not that then bigger sell on clauses if they sell during a certain timeframe or even if they sell to a league rival etc. Plenty of things we can add to give ourselves a better deal should one of them end up on the verge of signing for a direct rival.

Southampton are potentially making near £30 million profit in 12 months. we sold him cheaply so that we could include buy back clauses that now look as though we are never going to even get the option of utilising and will see him end up at our biggest rival over the last 5 years. Mistakes have been made for that to happen, that will not have been the intention, which is fine, it can happen, we just have to learn and ensure we don't make it again anytime soon.

Perhaps we don't see it as a mistake. There are going to be good players that we let go. It doesn't necessarily mean that they were the right players (or good enough) for us at that time, or now, though.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

It's evidently not when he's potentially going to the dippers for around £50 million 12 months later.

It's fine to accept we haven't got things 100% spot on, all the time.


Disagree. I strongly suspect we will have looked at the lavia situation and changed the structure of the clauses we insert when selling the likes of Charles, Trafford and Borges this summer to protect or even prevent any of them blowing up this season and moving to a rival 12 months later.

your prerogative, but I'm not really concerned by the sale.

The club are not stupid when it comes to transfer dealings despite what uninformed posters may think .

 

[LongsightM13]

Perhaps we don't see it as a mistake. There are going to be good players that we let go. It doesn't necessarily mean that they were the right players (or good enough) for us at that time, or now, though.

Lavia might be good enough for us in 2-3 years but certainly not at this moment in time
If there was a mistake it was in signing Phillips who has clearly wilted under the pressure
Amazed we aren’t even vaguely linked to Caicedo who is basically a reincarnation of Ferna

 

[domalino]

your prerogative, but I'm not really concerned by the sale.

The club are not stupid when it comes to transfer dealings despite what uninformed posters may think .

You could copy and paste this onto a Chelsea forum when KDB or Salah were sold on for profits.


I’m not saying he’s going to be that, more that a lot of fans (particularly of successful clubs) always think their club is making the right decision all the time and only accept mistakes in hindsight.

The people saying it’s not a mistake are just as uninformed as the people saying it might be.

 

[Xhavenjoe]

Kid needed that stability and game time invested in his development, we don’t have it. Saints did, they just fucked the season.

Probably but why put a buyback clause that you couldn't activate until 2024.

 

[Stiff Little Wingers]

We don't need him. We're well stacked for DMs.
We could do with someone to replace Gundogan but Lavia isn't that player.

We ain't replacing Gundog like for like, that's highly difficult to do.
I'm starting to think this may be a double blunder because it's hard to know what Citys strategy is to yelp Rodri, on assumption we play best with a DM.
Many say the dippers will be main challengers and I don't disagree with that and Klipperty who has pulled off (ooo err) some very good value signings sees Lavia as the answer.
I don't want to write Kalvin off too soon but he's struggled so far. Lavia was scholked at City and knew our systems well. So why not have kept him last season and give him game time to rest Rodri and then identify the real deal for us and if necessary let Lavia go but for what would have been a bigger price and not spend the money on Phillips?

 

[Keeper!]

Lavia might be good enough for us in 2-3 years but certainly not at this moment in time
If there was a mistake it was in signing Phillips who has clearly wilted under the pressure
Amazed we aren’t even vaguely linked to Caicedo who is basically a reincarnation of Ferna

Agreed on Caicedo, a superb player.

 

[billymumphrey]

We ain't replacing Gundog like for like, that's highly difficult to do.
I'm starting to think this may be a double blunder because it's hard to know what Citys strategy is to yelp Rodri, on assumption we play best with a DM.
Many say the dippers will be main challengers and I don't disagree with that and Klipperty who has pulled off (ooo err) some very good value signings sees Lavia as the answer.
I don't want to write Kalvin off too soon but he's struggled so far. Lavia was scholked at City and knew our systems well. So why not have kept him last season and give him game time to rest Rodri and then identify the real deal for us and if necessary let Lavia go but for what would have been a bigger price and not spend the money on Phillips?

Because it may have been good for us - but not him.

He played 2,230 mins in the league for the Saints last year. For reference sake it's about the same as Bernardo (2,203) did for us.

Lavia is not on the same level as Bernardo. If he had played 2,230 minutes for us last season that would have made him the 5th highest outfield player for us.

If he had stayed with us, if we're being generous, he would have got Laporte (994) or Rico (904) mins, or if we're glass half empty Palmer (359) or Gomez (341) with most of those coming into the game as a sub when the game is finished. He wanted what we couldn't give him. Fair dos.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

Lavia might be good enough for us in 2-3 years but certainly not at this moment in time
If there was a mistake it was in signing Phillips who has clearly wilted under the pressure
Amazed we aren’t even vaguely linked to Caicedo who is basically a reincarnation of Ferna

I imagine them already rejecting a 70 million bid has something to do with it. He's a fantastic young player, but I get why we wouldn't be willing to pay 80 million plus after one breakout season. There also seems to be a shift in our recruitment towards more physically imposing players. I don't know if that's a deliberate policy or just who we happen to have signed. But as good as he is, Caicedo is a fairly small busy player, rather than a Rodri type that will bully people off the ball.

 

[Tevez City]

Will City get any money from Lavia sale ?

 

[Any1aBlue]

Will City get any money from Lavia sale ?

£20m I’ve heard on some internet media outlets.