Rotherham child abuse scandal

blue underpants said:
Rotherham council cabinet have announced that it will dissolve
They have also said that all the files and minutes from meetings on the subject have 'vanished'
Still no prosecutions of this council scum, some even sat before a parliamentary committee and would not give a straight answer to anything, I swear one of the twats was smirking
See your earlier comments about files and meeting minutes having vanished. Those twats were smirking because they bloody well have got away with it.
This is another issue where the cover up goes all the way to the top.
 
blue underpants said:
Rotherham council cabinet have announced that it will dissolve
They have also said that all the files and minutes from meetings on the subject have 'vanished'
Still no prosecutions of this council scum, some even sat before a parliamentary committee and would not give a straight answer to anything, I swear one of the twats was smirking

Scum indeed. They should vanish into the shredder like their files.
 
East Level 2 said:
blue underpants said:
Rotherham council cabinet have announced that it will dissolve
They have also said that all the files and minutes from meetings on the subject have 'vanished'
Still no prosecutions of this council scum, some even sat before a parliamentary committee and would not give a straight answer to anything, I swear one of the twats was smirking
See your earlier comments about files and meeting minutes having vanished. Those twats were smirking because they bloody well have got away with it.
This is another issue where the cover up goes all the way to the top.
One of the mothers of a victim was at the council meeting today, she said it was disgusting, not one shred of remorse from anyone on the council just jockeying to save their own necks, bastards
 
Interesting article.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/aug/30/rotherham-girls-could-have-been-spared-ann-cryer" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014 ... -ann-cryer</a>
 
W12 said:
Interesting article.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/aug/30/rotherham-girls-could-have-been-spared-ann-cryer" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014 ... -ann-cryer</a>
The police were just as bad, it's emerged a woman who worked for the council and wanted to speak out was approached by 2 coppers in a car park and threatened ''if you say anything against these men we will tell them where you live'' the great British Bobby my arse, they are a political tool
 
I hope those responsible pay for their actions. That includes the people who covered up as well as the perps.
 
sir baconface said:
BlueRob01 said:
Whilst I am of course not for a second saying that individuals should not be accountable for their actions (or in this case inactions), the issue is not one of individuals but of society. Until we all admit and recognise that nothing will fundamentally change.
These crimes need to be seen in the wider context of society perhaps finally confronting the very uncomfortable truth. That the sexual exploitation, abuse and murder of children has been occurring throughout history, in our and most societies.
Ok, we don't like it and hence some of the predictable " lets point the finger" narrow minded and simplistic attitudes which achieve nothing other than a sense of individual moral self worth and ultimately just reinforce the deep rooted issues we all must face as a society. For too long we have collectively ignored how many vulnerable kids are treated. Why? Because to admit and confront the truth is deeply disturbing to us all.
But confront it we must, collectively and all accept responsibility and accountability rather than burying our heads in the sand and looking for scapegoats to make ourselves feel better when the truth does out - as it seems it is now more and more at last.

A little harsh, although I understand your point.

Obviously child abuse, like other crime, has been going on since time immemorial. I'm guessing most people would have assumed it was relatively isolated.

The industrial scale of the Rotherham cases has been an eye-opener, just like some of the high-profile paedophilia from people like Savile. And while Savile/other celebs/politicians may conveniently be "historic", the grooming stuff is very much in the present.

Don't just blame society though. Society is a blob that can't be pinned down. There are people in authority who knew what was going on. Many of them were paid to know what was going in. Some were even complicit. They should be held to account whether or not that looks like scapegoating.

It is also vital that lessons are learned. Not the usual mealy-mouthed words uttered while things pass over and everyone returns to their cosy little numbers. Policies and procedures need to visibly change so that we see some real accountability in public services and politics.

I am not wildly optimistic. These characters are professionals when it comes to being slippery and evading responsibility. If they do it long enough they are usually rewarded by the honours system and/or consultancy jobs. It's difficult for the man/woman in the street to have any effect on them.

Fair point and of course it can't be argued for a second, and nor would I, that those who were both responsible and those who can be held accountable from their failures to protect these kids should be brought to book.
I just think it can be all too easy to assume things such as this are other peoples responsibility, in general, or deny/ignore they go on out of convenience - consciously or not.
Whilst the scale here is of course startling in the extreme, hopefully it can at least act as a further catalyst for greater openness amongst us all. Things like this, though maybe not on the same scale perhaps, have and still are going on right through this and many countries. We just all need to face up to it and perhaps those whose duty it is to work to prevent such things will feel greater strength and moral courage to speak up. To do this human nature dictates however they need to feel they are talking to an audience that is ready to assist them, rather than blame them.
The point still remains - adults do kill, abuse and mistreat kids. As hard as it is for us to face up to, it happens, far more than we like to think.
 
Louise Caseys report into Rotherham Council has been published this Morning
In it she reports that the whole council is 'not fit for purpose' and she also found a culture of bullying, suppression, sexism and misplaced 'political correctness'
It also has a culture of deep rooted cover ups and silencing 'whistleblowers'
Sack the lot of them they are a bunch of twats who are a self serving load of politically correct idiots who can't see past their own political agendas
 

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