Russia detects possible signal from "sun like star"

inbetween said:
It is very unlikely any life out there is advanced as us or else where are they? Fermi's paradox remains a very simple thing to ponder on. It took us thousands of years to evolve just to this point without the Earth managing to be destroyed or it's environment change to make the existence of life impossible. The sequence of events that allowed us to exist to look for aliens is an infinitely small chance to begin with.

Could it ever be possible we could exist at the same time, develop the same technology to transmit signals and recieve them at an appreciable range that allows us to become aware of aliens within the human species lifetime... Doubtful.
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Agreed. And to be at the same physical scale?...always in sci-fi we are roughly the same size, we could be microbes!...or they could be..
 
Thread tailor made for that Damocles fella.
 
inbetween said:
It is very unlikely any life out there is advanced as us or else where are they? Fermi's paradox remains a very simple thing to ponder on. It took us thousands of years to evolve just to this point without the Earth managing to be destroyed or it's environment change to make the existence of life impossible. The sequence of events that allowed us to exist to look for aliens is an infinitely small chance to begin with.

Could it ever be possible we could exist at the same time, develop the same technology to transmit signals and recieve them at an appreciable range that allows us to become aware of aliens within the human species lifetime... Doubtful.
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Agreed on all that. With our limits as a race, we should be still looking closer to home imho. Considering Mars has ice caps and all the other evidence of geological activity among the first 4 planets of our own system, then also consider life has been found underneath the ice sheet of Antarctica, what's to say there isn't life on Enceladus or Europa?? Those ice planets could be teeming with life, but we can't send a man even that close, yet. Most likely that if anything, it's basic organisms, but we don't know. We don't even know how deep they are yet!! Baby steps, as long as we stay curious, but 94 light years is a bit of a stretch to do anything about atm.
 
inbetween said:
It is very unlikely any life out there is advanced as us or else where are they? Fermi's paradox remains a very simple thing to ponder on. It took us thousands of years to evolve just to this point without the Earth managing to be destroyed or it's environment change to make the existence of life impossible. The sequence of events that allowed us to exist to look for aliens is an infinitely small chance to begin with.

Could it ever be possible we could exist at the same time, develop the same technology to transmit signals and recieve them at an appreciable range that allows us to become aware of aliens within the human species lifetime... Doubtful.
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I think that's the strongest argument against other complex intelligent life elsewhere in the universe. Simply the odds. We needed (we assume) the primordial soup. How likely was DNA emergence? The likelihood of the neuron? How likely was the dinosaur killing asteroid? There are a zillion butterfly cause and effect occurrences which allow us to be here, as we are, as conscious meat. These questions are unanswerable because we only have 1 instance.
 
I maintain that any civilisation out there could not be more than 100 years behind or ahead of us technologically for us to be able to communicate with each other.

Otherwise we would not recognise a signal if it came.
Think what was our most advanced signalling technology 100 years ago? Semaphore? Wired morse code?
A hundred years from now we will no more be using today's communications than we use semaphore now.
 
denislawsbackheel said:
I maintain that any civilisation out there could not be more than 100 years behind or ahead of us technologically for us to be able to communicate with each other.

Otherwise we would not recognise a signal if it came.
Think what was our most advanced signalling technology 100 years ago? Semaphore? Wired morse code?
A hundred years from now we will no more be using today's communications than we use semaphore now.
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That is clearly not true imo. In the future if we send out signals in the hope of others responding we would send them out on all known frequencies available to us on which we think it would be possible for them to pick up, akin to "hail on all frequencies" you hear in films and tv. It is also possible that civilizations discover communication methods in a different order than we have or not at all. Also it is daft to think that because we haven't heard out so far that there is no other civilizations out there. Any other planet containing intelligent life may have another planet/moon in its own system that also has life, infact they may have found countless worlds and know of our existence but have found so many that there is no point in contacting us. They could have also been sending out signals in methods we may never discover. Ofcourse there may be nothing out there but that is unlikely in my opinion. The elements that led to life on Earth are everywhere in the cosmos and by all accounts there is a rocky planet around the nearest star to us in the goldilocks zone and in my opinion life wants to happen. i wouldn't even argue about it being fundamental in the universe. Finding bacteria on Mars will pretty much confrm this and i bet we will have that confirmed in 10 years.
 
everythingchangesbutblue said:
That is clearly not true imo. In the future if we send out signals in the hope of others responding we would send them out on all known frequencies available to us on which we think it would be possible for them to pick up, akin to "hail on all frequencies" you hear in films and tv. It is also possible that civilizations discover communication methods in a different order than we have or not at all. Also it is daft to think that because we haven't heard out so far that there is no other civilizations out there. Any other planet containing intelligent life may have another planet/moon in its own system that also has life, infact they may have found countless worlds and know of our existence but have found so many that there is no point in contacting us. They could have also been sending out signals in methods we may never discover. Ofcourse there may be nothing out there but that is unlikely in my opinion. The elements that led to life on Earth are everywhere in the cosmos and by all accounts there is a rocky planet around the nearest star to us in the goldilocks zone and in my opinion life wants to happen. i wouldn't even argue about it being fundamental in the universe. Finding bacteria on Mars will pretty much confrm this and i bet we will have that confirmed in 10 years.
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You have singularly failed to address my point.

To consider communication methods could be discovered in different orders is crazy.
Laser before semaphore?
LOL.
I did not say that because we haven't heard means there is no one out there.
Quite the contrary. We may be being bombarded every second by millions of civilisations trying to get through, but using technology just a few centuries ahead of us, and therefore we are not even aware of it.you even make that point in agreement!
 
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