Saddleworth2
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Obama had a legal and justified reason to campaign for himself don’t you think. As does trump. The Russians, maybe not so much other than in their own elections. Oh wait.
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dave_blue12
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Obama had a legal and justified reason to campaign for himself don’t you think. As does trump. The Russians, maybe not so much other than in their own elections. Oh wait.
Did vote leave not have a lawful and valid reason to campaign?
I've yet to hear any solid evidence bad state actors paid for the vote leave social media campaign im afraid?
Saddleworth2
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So that has shifted the argument from Obama vs Russia but ok.Did vote leave not have a lawful and valid reason to campaign?
I've yet to hear any solid evidence bad state actors paid for the vote leave social media campaign im afraid?
no, there is no public proven evidence. There are multiple allegations that in the opinion of the security committee warranted an intelligence lead review to prove or disprove interference. Even if they had done that and prove interference there is zero chance they would have been able to estimate the impact on the vote of the referendum. To me the important point is not trying to unpick the referendum result. That is done and dusted. The point is to prove and mitigate further foreign interference. My own view is that this is a lesser problem than interference from our own media and that would be greater priority to go after. But that’s for a different thread.
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So that has shifted the argument from Obama vs Russia but ok.
no, there is no public proven evidence. There are multiple allegations that in the opinion of the security committee warranted an intelligence lead review to prove or disprove interference. Even if they had done that and prove interference there is zero chance they would have been able to estimate the impact on the vote of the referendum. To me the important point is not trying to unpick the referendum result. That is done and dusted. The point is to prove and mitigate further foreign interference. My own view is that this is a lesser problem than interference from our own media and that would be greater priority to go after. But that’s for a different thread.
Agree with that and I've given my answer to the issue.
Ban all political adverts and campaigns on social media. Its the wild west, its a cess pit.
No one can complain then.
Saddleworth2
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Completely agree.Agree with that and I've given my answer to the issue.
Ban all political adverts and campaigns on social media. Its the wild west, its a cess pit.
No one can complain then.
bluethrunthru
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The thing with it is he insults peoples intelligence making such a statement in the knowledge that plenty will take it as gospel
west didsblue
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Don’t you just love the smell of corruption in the morning
That Boris Johnson quote could just as easily have come from Trump with the same level of credibility.
Ifwecouldjust.......
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Don’t you just love the smell of corruption in the morning
Two Tory ministers on the Intelligence Watchdog Committee accepting donations from the Russians
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dave_blue12
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Two Tory ministers on the Intelligence Watchdog Committee accepting donations from the Russians
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Putin's little helpers are everywhere. Many are so stupid they are completely unaware but others are happy to line their pockets and hold onto power.
Our country is in a very sad state and this is just the beginning. I believe we have much further to fall before there will be any hope of climbing out of the black hole we are falling down.