Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Tuearts right boot]

Or maybe it's more nuanced than this and there are no 'good guys' or 'bad guys'. Western society has a lot of massive massive problems and we do try and play the 'we are the good guys' card way too often.

Capatalism has reaked havok on the planet and caused significant issues within our own societies. There are better alternatives than late stage capatalism and communism...

Calling Comrade Rascal to the forum.!!

 

[Vic]

Taken from an opinion piece in the Guardian yesterday.....

"The same goes for the European Union. Britons, especially, came to associate the EU with trade at best, pettifogging bureaucracy at worst. When the EU won the Nobel peace prize in 2012, many scratched their heads with incomprehension. Well, there’s no excuse for bafflement now. Putin has jogged our memories that the EU was founded out of the conviction that the only future for a continent that had been at the centre of two world wars in 30 years was to come together: to share sovereignty rather than to kill for it. The sight of a khaki-clad Volodymyr Zelenskiy signing Ukraine’s request to join the EU, even as Russian forces approached, demonstrated again that for Europeans, the EU has always been about safety and peace. How shaming to think of the Eurosceptics who pretended the EU was some kind of foreign occupier, referring to it as the “EUSSR”. How shaming to think that the British contribution to this noble postwar ideal was to abandon it."

Ukraine could have been positioned as a useful trading bridge between the EU and Russia. (A bit like NI between the EU and UK.)

I doubt Putin would have welcomed it.

I think.

 

[KS55]

Didn’t he sell his stake in Sky news a few years ago? I might be wrong..

Oh, I had quite forgotten that in amongst all the corporate jockeying that went on.

 

[i kne albert davy]

Probably more



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What are the sanctions on these entities do we know could be the 18 the UK have applied can be hitting harder than the 490 the EU have applied doe's anyone have any insight.

 

[KS55]

Worlds fucked , no idea what or if Putin has a get out route, they are going to be isolated for years if he remains in power , Russian economy fucked , honestly reckon he will use nuclear weapons and that will be that .

Cheerful soul.

 

[marco]

Cheerful soul.

not the kind of chap to prop the bar up and have a beer with

 

[Daz_Blue]

Worlds fucked , no idea what or if Putin has a get out route, they are going to be isolated for years if he remains in power , Russian economy fucked , honestly reckon he will use nuclear weapons and that will be that .

I hope City win the Champions League first ....

 

[Daz_Blue]

Can't we just send in Andy Morrison

 

[KS55]

Capatalism has reaked havok on the planet and caused significant issues within our own societies.

Such as lifting billions out of poverty.
Of course it is not perfect, but be realistic. I have never come across an example of socialism lifting people out of poverty.

 

[Daz_Blue]

Typical City ....we sign Haaland and we get nuked the next day.....