Russian invasion of Ukraine

Which is what I said, we wipe each other out and they stroll in. The reality is a cornered tosser like Putin would try to take as many with him as possible, you don’t need to read a spy novel to know a madman when you see one.
Stroll into what? An irradiated, lifeless wasteland? A toxic world where life is ultimately harder. Some win for China.
 
So what's the alternative? Sacrifice Ukraine? Give in to Putin's demands? What then? Putin knows all he has to do is threaten nuclear war unless he is given Poland, the Baltics, east Germany.

Where does it stop in your eyes?
No definitely not sacrifice Ukraine, if I had my way NATO would’ve been in months ago and and the war would be over now, but it has to be coupled with getting rid of the regime in Russia otherwise it’s just rinse and repeat, USA has to get a grip of China and see the folly of Putin, especially like others have said there could be famine in the way. If China put pressure on those at the top I’m sure Putin would be gone within weeks.
 
The "West" is China's biggest customer.
Sanctions would affect China more than it does Russia.
After seeing the "West" reaction to Russian aggression, what's in it for China to do likewise...

There the flip side to that too, the west buy most of there stuff from China.

Sanctions to the same level as we have applied to Russia would be epically painful all round. Not suggesting we wouldn’t do it but I can’t see it happening anywhere like as quickly as it did with Russia.
 
There the flip side to that too, the west buy most of there stuff from China.

Sanctions to the same level as we have applied to Russia would be epically painful all round. Not suggesting we wouldn’t do it but I can’t see it happening anywhere like as quickly as it did with Russia.
Imagine the uproar when you can’t bet your shiny new iPhone that’s exactly the same as the others for the past 5 years!
 
No definitely not sacrifice Ukraine, if I had my way NATO would’ve been in months ago and and the war would be over now, but it has to be coupled with getting rid of the regime in Russia otherwise it’s just rinse and repeat, USA has to get a grip of China and see the folly of Putin, especially like others have said there could be famine in the way. If China put pressure on those at the top I’m sure Putin would be gone within weeks.
It needs USA and China to mend bridges tainted by Mr Trump blaming China for spying via Huawei infrastructure etc whilst cosying up to Russia.
 

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