Russian invasion of Ukraine

mosssideblue said:
Not sure Ukraine will surrender any territory this time around
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Maybe not voluntarily but if they aren’t able to penetrate deeply through Russian lines this summer, sooner rather than later they’ll be forced to the negotiating table.
 
mosssideblue said:
I think the rest of Europe is too invested now not to see this through
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Much as we all want them to take back their land, I just don't see how they take it all back sadly.

Europe will continue to support them, but never enough for them to force russia out, that has been clear for a long time now. This support will stop them gaining much more, and might help take bits back, but unless we put troops on the ground, that'll be it, basically stalemate.
 
I heard from somewhere, French troops are good at special forces, they are not good at large-scale operations. They need time to learn. It could be one year or two. Maybe in 2026, they can get ready to fight a major war in Ukraine.
And yes, it will be a major war like something happend in 1910s and 1930s. It's hard to predict who will win. Because Russians will learn from the war, that's the same with Europeans. No one can stop it. The storm is gethering.
 
Alvin-blue-qhd said:
I heard from somewhere, French troops are good at special forces, they are not good at large-scale operations. They need time to learn. It could be one year or two. Maybe in 2026, they can get ready to fight a major war in Ukraine.
And yes, it will be a major war like something happend in 1910s and 1930s. It's hard to predict who will win. Because Russians will learn from the war, that's the same with Europeans. No one can stop it. The storm is gethering.
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There will be special forces of most nations in there right now.
 
Iassel said:
Maybe not voluntarily but if they aren’t able to penetrate deeply through Russian lines this summer, sooner rather than later they’ll be forced to the negotiating table.
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The only thing happening this year is the Ukrainians hanging on
They're in no position to go on an offensive

Ukraine can only "win" by constantly eroding ruSSian forces, along with destroying industrial facilities in ruSSia, creating discontent and economic hardship
 
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