Russian invasion of Ukraine

CTID1977 said:
Why would they want to take him down if the **** doing their job? USA and China should award him their highest honours
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You question is orthogonal to reality. There's no way that the US would ever contemplate the assassination of Putin.

But in some sort of alternative reality where assassination is an option - there's very good reason to kill Putin and others of his ilk, and to stage a coup, attempting to ensure that a palatable leader succeeds him. Russia may well win its war against Ukraine because the US Congress is blocking aid. Should Ukraine fall, it's terrible for Europe and the US (although a deluded Trump and his MAGA contingent might believe otherwise, embracing fascism over Democracy).

Russia's army/navy/air force is now not at all a threat to the USA. It's their nuclear arsenal that's of concern.

You seem to think that Ukraine's war with Russia is some sort of pivotal advantage the US/China - thank God that the 3rd-rate Russian army, navy and air force are being destroyed by Ukraine, otherwise we'd have a real adversary on our hands!

Russia is pretty much like North Korea. Some backwater nation that, absent nukes, the US could wipe out entirely with no problem whatsoever. Except that Russia and NK possess nuclear weapons - and a miscalculation could prove disastrous. And Russia is much, much more capable than NK in terms of nuclear deployment, it's arenal including ICBMs and nuclear-equipped submarines.
 
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lee_wsm said:
If reports are true he is pretty well protected and due to past Russians leaders meeting their end by inside jobs he is very paranoid. The problem with Russia as a general is they believe their own bullshit of being stronger than everyone and everyone is against them. Every person close to taking over seems equally a fucked up person.
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I think it is more a case of selection filtering: you have to be a power hungry, ruthless, paranoid, psychopath get anywhere near the top in Russia. If you aren’t you get fairly filtered out fairly quickly by the system itself (one way or another, but often by the current powers).

Now, the first two attributes are often necessary to make it to the highest echelons of any political system, but the last two are usually reserved for the violent, volatile despotic systems.

It is one of the problems with attempting to depose dictators and/or dismantle authoritarian regimes or terrorist organisations. It is almost impossible to do comprehensively, so you are normally (at best) removing the top level of leadership, leaving a power vacuum to be filled by a new regime that is as (or more) extreme as the previous one (often aided in their ascent by the furious reaction to the ouster of the previous regime).
 
BlueMoonAcrossThePond said:
You question is orthogonal to reality. There's no way that the US would ever contemplate the assassination of Putin.

But in some sort of alternative reality where assassination is an option - there's very good reason to kill Putin and others of his ilk, and to stage a coup, attempting to ensure that a palatable leader succeeds him. Russia may well win its war against Ukraine because the US Congress is blocking aid. Should Ukraine fall, it's terrible for Europe and the US (although a deluded Trump and his MAGA contingent might believe otherwise, embracing fascism over Democracy).

Russia's army/navy/air force is now not at all a threat to the USA. It's their nuclear arsenal that's of concern.

You seem to think that Ukraine's war with Russia is some sort of pivotal advantage the US/China - thank God that the 3rd-rate Russian army, navy and air force are being destroyed by Ukraine, otherwise we'd have a real adversary on our hands!

Russia is pretty much like North Korea. Some backwater nation that, absent nukes, the US could wipe out entirely with no problem whatsoever. Except that Russia and NK possess nuclear weapons - and a miscalculation could prove disastrous. And Russia is much, much more capable than NK in terms of nuclear deployment, it's arenal including ICBMs and nuclear-equipped submarines.
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It wouldn't be advantageous to kill Putin and create a fractured Russian federation. There would then be several factions with nuclear weapons.
 
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