ChicagoBlue
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If only they had a fleet of A-10s!
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Russian invasion of Ukraine
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bluethrunthru
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Just saw a tweet - 54 secs long - where the A&E Doctors and Nurses fight to save the life of a 6 year old caught in the bombing today in Kharkiv. They were unsuccessful. I won't re-post as it was the most harrowing thing I have seen - Putin is a war criminal and has to be treated as such
mancity2012_eamo
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Mad, when you throw like a girl.I have two nieces of a similar age. Is it mad or brave to drive past a tank of an invading army and single handedly bomb it from zero feet?
There can be no tit for tat mate. What do you suggest the west do as tit for tat, if Russia were to nuke Ukraine? Nuke a different bit of Ukraine?
No, we'd have to nuke Russia. And that is not tit for tat, it's a huge escalation which would risk the lives of countless millions in the west. It would be an absolute disaster.
I know that's not what anyone wants to hear but you cannot copy madman tactics when dealing with a madman.
Sadly, I think the best outcome at this point is that Ukraine falls quickly and with the minimum of further casualties, and from there we can continue to apply sanctions, to use all diplomatic channels and to try to negotiate some kind of compromise deal which may allow some of Ukraine some degree of independence.
Could there not be a scenario where the west gets involved but strictly to defend Ukraine, no retaliation or entering Russia, purely to maintain Ukraine sovereignty?
I don't think that scenario would lead to nukes.
We just send the message that we will not enter Russia but we will defend Ukraine.
Lines will be drawn at some point, western leaders will have a line where they probably can't let it go any further.
If Russia kills the Ukrainian President lets say, are the west really going to ignore that?
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bluethrunthru
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If only they had a fleet of A-10s!
They have SU -25's which do the same job and its said the EU is supplying them with more. They also have TB2 drones that can perform a similar function
WestGorton
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Whilst rightly condemning and taking action let's also help the people of Afghanistan and deal diplomatically with the Taliban to avert a catastrophe there too. Let's combat poverty on our own streets. It's all not political but common sense and we all benefit. There will never be a perfect world but let's try. Unfortunately I won't hold my breath.
crazyg
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Slight editFrom a fishing point of view there are some monster gudgeon in the cooling ponds.
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Not a good look if your trying to disprove the enemy claim of being Nazis.
DrBlueBob
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You can tell her. Good luck, it's been nice knowing you.Mad, when you throw like a girl.
Johnny Mars Bar
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There can be no tit for tat mate. What do you suggest the west do as tit for tat, if Russia were to nuke Ukraine? Nuke a different bit of Ukraine?
No, we'd have to nuke Russia. And that is not tit for tat, it's a huge escalation which would risk the lives of countless millions in the west. It would be an absolute disaster.
I know that's not what anyone wants to hear but you cannot copy madman tactics when dealing with a madman.
Sadly, I think the best outcome at this point is that Ukraine falls quickly and with the minimum of further casualties, and from there we can continue to apply sanctions, to use all diplomatic channels and to try to negotiate some kind of compromise deal which may allow some of Ukraine some degree of independence.
Wow, never knew Neville Chamberlain was still alive.