Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Deleted member 77198]

Having a major western leader in regular contact with Putin cant be a bad thing, surely?

People like to have a go at Macron (not saying you are), but the way he said that he wasn't taking any sh*t from non-vaccinated people causing problems for the rest of the French population and now trying to do something about Putin whilst still committing to backing up Ukraine with weapons and aid, you can't really knock him for trying.

Yeah definitely, it’s great what Macron is doing. But it’s Putin who can’t be trusted, he could tell me that it was raining outside and I’d still go out to check before getting an umbrella.

 

[Chippy_boy]

Then we don't support democracy

That's nonsense. Of course we support democracy. Not being prepared to have WW3 over a country which is not even in NATO does not mean we don't support democracy.

 

[Chippy_boy]

It isn't lost though is it, and if they keep holding out the Russian economy is going to hit rock bottom and without new supplies Russia will not be able to make new weapons to continue fighting.

So how do you see this ending? (Assuming a successful outcome to your way of thinking). Seriously, I am intrigued.

Because I cannot see any scenario where Russia pack up and leave and say sorry for the incursion. Can you?

 

[BlueHammer85]

It isn't lost though is it, and if they keep holding out the Russian economy is going to hit rock bottom and without new supplies Russia will not be able to make new weapons to continue fighting.

I worry China can help them out in that department

 

[True_Blue69]

I worry China can help them out in that department

Why would they though? By the sounds of things they don't agree with what's going on any more than the rest of the world.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Taking a photo of a tank in your porch.

You weren’t in, so we left it here…

 

[BimboBob]

How fucking wild is it that many of us are just sat going about our day, while checking the internet every ten minutes for updates about a potentially world ending scenario kicking off? Ffs. No wonder I've had a permanent tension headache for a few days.

World ending?

I'd suggest not checking the Internet every ten minutes and get on with your life you wet blanket.

 

[mosssideblue]

That's nonsense. Of course we support democracy. Not being prepared to have WW3 over a country which is not even in NATO does not mean we don't support democracy.

Thankfully this and other European Governments are not willing to concede defeat as easily as you seem to be

 

[Scottyboi]

So how do you see this ending? (Assuming a successful outcome to your way of thinking). Seriously, I am intrigued.

Because I cannot see any scenario where Russia pack up and leave and say sorry for the incursion. Can you?

No idea, hopefully with Putin being ousted by his own people.

All I know is that 40 million people deserve to be supported by us and not told to surrender and live under that piece of shit just to make us feel safe.

 

[Chippy_boy]

Thankfully this and other European Governments are not willing to concede defeat as easily as you seem to be

I don't think there's any thankfully about it. And BTW, I was not suggesting we should not have supported Ukraine and even that we should stop now. I am merely countering some of the gung-ho attitudes on here with a sense of realism.