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With around only 30,000 people. Administration dear boy, and flags. Also, places are literally never part of empires until that empire rolls in. That’s sort of how empires work.
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Russian invasion of Ukraine
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metalblue
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I don't agree with the poster but you stole India. India was never a part of British empire until you went there and plundered.
The mad thing is we stole everything that was in our empire. And we’re very sorry.
roy.or.r
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Still India was never a part of British Empire. That was my point. are you trying to justify what British did?With around only 30,000 people. Administration dear boy, and flags. Also, places are literally never part of empires until that empire rolls in. That’s sort of how empires work.
dickie davies
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Who's this "you"?I don't agree with the poster but you stole India. India was never a part of British empire until you went there and plundered.
It's like me accusing you of stealing and plundering land from Native Americans
roy.or.r
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I didn't say the poster did it. By you, I meant British.Who's this "you"?
It's like me accusing you of stealing and plundering land from Native Americans
SkyBlueCanuck
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My unpopular opinion:
-Russia has withheld the strongest of its military might on the chance that NATO/US/EU/Somebody joins in on Ukraine's side and needs to be dealt with
-Russia has not invaded full scale regardless of what the press keeps telling me
-Nobody is serious about dealing with Putin/Russia so long as they keep buying Russian fuel
-As fuel prices soar, Putin/Russia literally grow richer as a result of this incursion
-Sanctions will do SFA other than strengthen Sino-Russian cooperation
-A serious attempt to militarily defend Ukraine by any other state would necessarily involve defence/counterattacks/attacks on the Russian military and therefore: is an invitation for Russia to attack the country who attacks their forces.
-fucking nobody is going to do that
-therefore: negotiated surrender and acceding to Russian terms is the only outcome.
I don't like it. But I can't see it another way. Saving the Ukrainian people's lives is my most favored outcome at this point and I can't see this go any "better" way for them.
-Russia has withheld the strongest of its military might on the chance that NATO/US/EU/Somebody joins in on Ukraine's side and needs to be dealt with
-Russia has not invaded full scale regardless of what the press keeps telling me
-Nobody is serious about dealing with Putin/Russia so long as they keep buying Russian fuel
-As fuel prices soar, Putin/Russia literally grow richer as a result of this incursion
-Sanctions will do SFA other than strengthen Sino-Russian cooperation
-A serious attempt to militarily defend Ukraine by any other state would necessarily involve defence/counterattacks/attacks on the Russian military and therefore: is an invitation for Russia to attack the country who attacks their forces.
-fucking nobody is going to do that
-therefore: negotiated surrender and acceding to Russian terms is the only outcome.
I don't like it. But I can't see it another way. Saving the Ukrainian people's lives is my most favored outcome at this point and I can't see this go any "better" way for them.
PannickAtTheDisco
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no, we aren't. Get over it.The mad thing is we stole everything that was in our empire. And we’re very sorry.
roy.or.r
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Also I have seen a lot of posters blaming India for abstaining. I blame India too but I also understand why they did it now. India's strategic relationship with Russia is vital considering the West literally screwed them over in the 70s.
inchy14
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I know mate but if not now when, after he’s picked another couple of non nato countries he fancies…Agree with you except if NATO steps in there will be more than the millions you quote affected. What to do eh?
They weren’t - they just needed an excuse other than the truth… which is they wanted to do it to have a better negotiating position.How anyone can get upset by anything Liz Truss says is beyond me. She seems to excel at being completely out of her depth 100% of the time.