Russian invasion of Ukraine

[CTID1977]

Why do we have to ask the USA if Ukraine can use our stormshadows to hit targets in Russia ? If they fuck Ukraine off the we should just give them permission anyway.

i'm not exactly sure but it is something has to do with the american parts in those bombs

 

[west didsblue]

i'm not exactly sure but it is something has to do with the american parts in those bombs

Any weapon system that contains any US parts or technology is subject to ITAR regulations which means the US government can specify who they can and can’t be exported to. It’s a huge deal in the defence industry and a lot of effort is made to make products in the UK and elsewhere that are free from ITAR constraints, however Stormshadow contains US tech and is subject to ITAR and therefore needs US permission for them to be sent to Ukraine.

 

[dickie davies]

Any weapon system that contains any US parts or technology is subject to ITAR regulations which means the US government can specify who they can and can’t be exported to. It’s a huge deal in the defence industry and a lot of effort is made to make products in the UK and elsewhere that are free from ITAR constraints, however Stormshadow contains US tech and is subject to ITAR and therefore needs US permission for them to be sent to Ukraine.

I thought the issue with Storm shadow is that the identification of targets and their coordinates are supplied via American satellites, which is why American permission is needed

 

[west didsblue]

I thought the issue with Storm shadow is that the identification of targets and their coordinates are supplied via American satellites, which is why American permission is needed

I think it’s more that the detailed accurate mapping data in the missiles is sourced from the US which makes them ITAR. Without that data the missiles are less effective. Also I was reading that some batches of missiles also incorporate US components. Whether that’s true for those provided to Ukraine I don’t know.

 

[CTID1977]

Cossack from kursk:

 

[mrcunny]

The UK has let Ukraine down

The UK has slowed its support for Ukraine since the Labour Party came to power at 10 Downing Street, lamented former Défense Secretary Ben Wallace.

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

True, but not the reinstallation by Trump of a Churchill bust in the white house as the person to whom I was replying had said

He had the Churchill bust reinstated the last time he got the gig.

So very old news.

 

[CheshireExpat]

Such a complete and utter waste of life. Just get it to stop, who cares how.

Fighting people who only differ from you by a few vowels for what? Absolutely nothing. Reminds of a similar war a century ago. What did they die for?

Cossack from kursk:

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Such a complete and utter waste of life. Just get it to stop, who cares how.

Do you think the Ukrainian people deserve a say in how it stops?

 

[fulabeer]

It can stop immediately. Literally within minutes. All Putin has to do is send his troops/meat bags home.
Russia will lose zero ground.
If the Ukraine stops, they will lose everything. Stopping isn't an option.