Russian invasion of Ukraine

Not formally but It's almost over. They are on course for defeat.

Defeat would be no Ukraine, which is what the most certain outcome in putins mind. The fact they have taken some land back, hold land in russia and have destroyed russias economy and not capitulated to the 2nd largest army in the world is no defeat. Not sure why you are playing their achievements down tbh. Even if Ukraine have to cede some territory now it is no defeat they have brought russia to their knees.
 
Defeat would be no Ukraine, which is what the most certain outcome in putins mind. The fact they have taken some land back, hold land in russia and have destroyed russias economy and not capitulated to the 2nd largest army in the world is no defeat. Not sure why you are playing their achievements down tbh. Even if Ukraine have to cede some territory now it is no defeat they have brought russia to their knees.

Put it like that I would agree. But most of the people I was responding to seem to believe that Ukraine can regain all of the territory it has lost. We still have posters talking about blowing up the bridge and taking Crimea.
 
Put it like that I would agree. But most of the people I was responding to seem to believe that Ukraine can regain all of the territory it has lost. We still have posters talking about blowing up the bridge and taking Crimea.

We all have no idea if putin will even offer terms anyone can accept either he might not give a shit and continue. I don't see Ukraine taking Crimea and other parts via a military campaign, only if russia end the war and it becomes part of the treaty. The west have sadly gave Ukraine just enough to let russia eat itself slowly at the expense of Ukrainian lives.
 
Pretty sure you're wumming at this point. Rational people don't talk like this. It's like you're trying to get a reaction.

Well you won't be getting any interaction from me from now on.

Crack on though, I'm sure others will see through you in time.

Yet you bothered to reply to me without us not even previously having spoken to tell me this. Pointless.
 
Defeat would be no Ukraine, which is what the most certain outcome in putins mind. The fact they have taken some land back, hold land in russia and have destroyed russias economy and not capitulated to the 2nd largest army in the world is no defeat. Not sure why you are playing their achievements down tbh. Even if Ukraine have to cede some territory now it is no defeat they have brought russia to their knees.
Pretty much my take.
 

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