Salford and Trafford should call themselves Manchester

[Metal Biker]

because it would be the best thing for it and for the vast majority of people in it.

Or it could be disastrous and end up destroying us all!

(See I can make wild statements without facts or figures too.)

Why would it benefit us all? How would it benefit us all? Who would benefit from it the most?

What a strange hyperbolic post. Except for maybe a few people fearing the loss of their local identity i doubt you will find any articles that think there would'nt be huge benifits for the area.

Such as...?

 

[everythingchangesbutblue]

Or it could be disastrous and end up destroying us all!

(See I can make wild statements without facts or figures too.)

Why would it benefit us all? How would it benefit us all? Who would benefit from it the most?

What a strange hyperbolic post. Except for maybe a few people fearing the loss of their local identity i doubt you will find any articles that think there would'nt be huge benifits for the area.

Such as...?

"such as" lol I aint bloody here to educate you. Go read some stuff on it like i did.

 

[Metal Biker]

What a strange hyperbolic post. Except for maybe a few people fearing the loss of their local identity i doubt you will find any articles that think there would'nt be huge benifits for the area.

Such as...?

"such as" lol I aint bloody here to educate you. Go read some stuff on it like i did.

You could just give me the gist rather than just pooh-poohing my request.

Could you at least point me in the right direction; which publications to read for example. Otherwise, like most peoples attitude today whenever they have an opinion on something, i'll just assume you aren't fully correct in your assumption that "it'll be good for Manchester, so shut up and accept it!" stance.

 

[everythingchangesbutblue]

Such as...?

"such as" lol I aint bloody here to educate you. Go read some stuff on it like i did.

You could just give me the gist rather than just pooh-poohing my request.

Could you at least point me in the right direction; which publications to read for example. Otherwise, like most peoples attitude today whenever they have an opinion on something, i'll just assume you aren't fully correct in your assumption that "it'll be good for Manchester, so shut up and accept it!" stance.

Any quick google search will bring up many different articles on the subject, the vast majority of which will detail the benifits of merging the 10 authorities. I'm no authority on the subject but i do have an interest in it so i read numerous pieces on the subject all of which leads me to believe it would be in the best interests of the region for them to merge. You stated "wild statements without facts or figures" whereas if you reread my post i make none, just my opinion. I think the only fact i stated was that G'mcr has the same population as Chicago yet you say my "shut up and accept it stance" which leads me to "poo poo" your request and say go look on goolge

 

[Metal Biker]

"such as" lol I aint bloody here to educate you. Go read some stuff on it like i did.

You could just give me the gist rather than just pooh-poohing my request.

Could you at least point me in the right direction; which publications to read for example. Otherwise, like most peoples attitude today whenever they have an opinion on something, i'll just assume you aren't fully correct in your assumption that "it'll be good for Manchester, so shut up and accept it!" stance.

Any quick google search will bring up many different articles on the subject, the vast majority of which will detail the benifits of merging the 10 authorities. I'm no authority on the subject but i do have an interest in it so i read numerous pieces on the subject all of which leads me to believe it would be in the best interests of the region for them to merge. You stated "wild statements without facts or figures" whereas if you reread my post i make none, just my opinion. I think the only fact i stated was that G'mcr has the same population as Chicago yet you say my "shut up and accept it stance" which leads me to "poo poo" your request and say go look on goolge

Well i just googled "Manchester, megacity, pros and cons". Not a bad place to start, right. The top two links were both this thread.

*cough*

Next is something about oatmeal, and Megacities; boundless growth? (an article from 2008).

So now i've searched for pros and cons of megacities and....

Advantages: wider range of culture, more job opportunities, nightlife, recreation, perfect for entrepreneurs.
Disadvantages: lower quality of life (due to air pollution and smog, just to clarify), higher cost of living, lower quality of public services, larger gap between rich and poor.

Yeah, i'm still in the "no" camp, thanks.

 

[everythingchangesbutblue]

You could just give me the gist rather than just pooh-poohing my request.

Could you at least point me in the right direction; which publications to read for example. Otherwise, like most peoples attitude today whenever they have an opinion on something, i'll just assume you aren't fully correct in your assumption that "it'll be good for Manchester, so shut up and accept it!" stance.

Any quick google search will bring up many different articles on the subject, the vast majority of which will detail the benifits of merging the 10 authorities. I'm no authority on the subject but i do have an interest in it so i read numerous pieces on the subject all of which leads me to believe it would be in the best interests of the region for them to merge. You stated "wild statements without facts or figures" whereas if you reread my post i make none, just my opinion. I think the only fact i stated was that G'mcr has the same population as Chicago yet you say my "shut up and accept it stance" which leads me to "poo poo" your request and say go look on goolge

Well i just googled "Manchester, megacity, pros and cons". Not a bad place to start, right. The top two links were both this thread.

*cough*

Next is something about oatmeal, and Megacities; boundless growth? (an article from 2008).

So now i've searched for pros and cons of megacities and....

Advantages: wider range of culture, more job opportunities, nightlife, recreation, perfect for entrepreneurs.
Disadvantages: lower quality of life (due to air pollution and smog, just to clarify), higher cost of living, lower quality of public services, larger gap between rich and poor.

Yeah, i'm still in the "no" camp, thanks.

So let me get this straight, you did'nt really know much on the subject but your 1st post was set against it and now you have just done a quick search and come up with reasons that could all be applied to the area now and certainly apply to the most prosperous cities on earth and you have decided to base your opinion on that quick search, is that right? Maybe you are right, who knows? I believe that the pros vastly outweigh the cons. If you stand still you get left behind. One last thing about your air pollution smog comment. Its thought that in the next 2 decades graphene could be applied to vehicles as positively charged hydrogen atoms can pass through it. I'm no Damocles but that means cars, trucks planes to some extent etc could be powered by the air. My favourite graphene application though is "predator" style contact lenses that let us see light in all wavelengths. Graphene was discoverd in Manchester but we are lagging behind many other places with the patents for apps. If we had had a merged G'mcr with decisions being made by one council and the clout that council would have had maybe we could have had more investment in just this one area instead of the catch up the goverment is doing now. The stored program computer was invented in Manchester, the pc was'nt.

 

[StrangewaysHereWeCome]

A point was made a couple of pages back. Where is Salford city centre? Is it that shithole precinct in Pendleton? Or maybe it's the centre of Swinton? (Itself a town if I'm not mistaken)

Salford does have a lot. The Trafford centre... A top flight rugby team. The quays and all that that has to offer but there is something not quite there to make it a City like Manchester is.

However. One thing has not been touched upon in this thread which for me is quite important. How on earth can anyone take Evan Davis's view seriously when he looks like he does? Neither boz eyed or wall eyed but they're not right. One looking for you, one looking past you.

 

[west didsblue]

A point was made a couple of pages back. Where is Salford city centre? Is it that shithole precinct in Pendleton? Or maybe it's the centre of Swinton? (Itself a town if I'm not mistaken)

Salford does have a lot. The Trafford centre... A top flight rugby team. The quays and all that that has to offer but there is something not quite there to make it a City like Manchester is.

The Trafford Centre is in Trafford not Salford. The clue is in the name ;-)

 

[ONTHERUNWITHTHAKSIN]

Any quick google search will bring up many different articles on the subject, the vast majority of which will detail the benifits of merging the 10 authorities. I'm no authority on the subject but i do have an interest in it so i read numerous pieces on the subject all of which leads me to believe it would be in the best interests of the region for them to merge. You stated "wild statements without facts or figures" whereas if you reread my post i make none, just my opinion. I think the only fact i stated was that G'mcr has the same population as Chicago yet you say my "shut up and accept it stance" which leads me to "poo poo" your request and say go look on goolge

Well i just googled "Manchester, megacity, pros and cons". Not a bad place to start, right. The top two links were both this thread.

*cough*

Next is something about oatmeal, and Megacities; boundless growth? (an article from 2008).

So now i've searched for pros and cons of megacities and....

Advantages: wider range of culture, more job opportunities, nightlife, recreation, perfect for entrepreneurs.
Disadvantages: lower quality of life (due to air pollution and smog, just to clarify), higher cost of living, lower quality of public services, larger gap between rich and poor.

Yeah, i'm still in the "no" camp, thanks.

So let me get this straight, you did'nt really know much on the subject but your 1st post was set against it and now you have just done a quick search and come up with reasons that could all be applied to the area now and certainly apply to the most prosperous cities on earth and you have decided to base your opinion on that quick search, is that right? Maybe you are right, who knows? I believe that the pros vastly outweigh the cons. If you stand still you get left behind. One last thing about your air pollution smog comment. Its thought that in the next 2 decades graphene could be applied to vehicles as positively charged hydrogen atoms can pass through it. I'm no Damocles but that means cars, trucks planes to some extent etc could be powered by the air. My favourite graphene application though is "predator" style contact lenses that let us see light in all wavelengths. Graphene was discoverd in Manchester but we are lagging behind many other places with the patents for apps. If we had had a merged G'mcr with decisions being made by one council and the clout that council would have had maybe we could have had more investment in just this one area instead of the catch up the goverment is doing now. The stored program computer was invented in Manchester, the pc was'nt.

Don't forget we also split the atom in Manchester

I live in Trafford and it always winds Rags up on holiday who ask where I live and I say Stretford near Manchester and then state I follow City because I was born in Manchester near Maine road to be precise

 

[tony coleman]

Ive been saying this for years. Manchesters city proper boundaries are far too small. Take Leeds for example not so long back its city proper population was approx. 420.000 then the bastards formed new boundaries taking in towns around it and now has a population of 750.000 !

Wetherby and Otley for example are classed as being part of Leeds yet they are miles away from it with masses of open land inbetween.!!

Even Bradford is Classed as being bigger than Manchester proper !!! Bradford ffs.

So sorry Salford, Swinton and Pendlebury. Worsley, Eccles, Irlam Stretford, Urmston, Prestwich, Whitefield, Bury, MIddleton,failsworth, Droylesden, Audenshawe, Denton, Hyde, Ducky,
Denton,The Heatons, Reddish, .....er fuck it, lets have all of the SK8 area with handforth thrown in. We could also have Sale , Walkden,

.......Theres loads more but these could do for starters.....were coming for ya !