School kids protest climate change

No, like coming off their gadgets.
So it's ok to pump toxic fumes into the atmosphere , drop bombs all over the place and do irreparable damage to the ozone layer, but let's all have a go at some teenagers for using their mobile phones and not let them have a say until they stop. Unbelievable
 
So it's ok to pump toxic fumes into the atmosphere , drop bombs all over the place and do irreparable damage to the ozone layer, but let's all have a go at some teenagers for using their mobile phones and not let them have a say until they stop. Unbelievable

Of course is isn't OK. No-one is saying it is. But griping about it whilst pumping toxins out using your mobiles to constantly gripe about it is more than a bit daft isn't it ?
 
Of course is isn't OK. No-one is saying it is. But griping about it whilst pumping toxins out using your mobiles to constantly gripe about it is more than a bit daft isn't it ?

Do you expect everyone concerned with climate change to live in a bush?
 
Of course is isn't OK. No-one is saying it is. But griping about it whilst pumping toxins out using your mobiles to constantly gripe about it is more than a bit daft isn't it ?
Not really no. How would you like them to "gripe" about it out of curiosity?
 
No. I just want people who lecture me about it to create less environmental damage than me.

Who’s lecturing you about it? The whole point is to lecture the government, not you.

No one is coming around to your house and unplugging your tele ffs.
 
I would like them to gripe about it from a position of creating less toxins than me.
That's a bit vague but ok. They're not griping about it to you though are they, they're griping as you put it to government who produce/ are in a position to reduce said toxins
 
Who’s lecturing you about it? The whole point is to lecture the government, not you.

No one is coming around to your house and unplugging your tele ffs.

My point is the young people in the country, with their gadgets and addiction to modern day living are in no position to lecture anyone, until they change their own way of life
 
The environment is very very important of course but are we genuinely going to change? All we hear from adults is how we need to earn more money on a national level and all we hear from kids is what next best electronic thing they can own, and of course walking anywhere is out of the question.
Personally I would love to revert back to villages and eating locally grown food but that isn't possible without a population drop of biblical proportions, we are where we are and we're going to use resources until there's little or nowt left and that means even the people protesting today when the novelty of protest wears off and the new iphone comes out. It's admirable that they want to make a difference but just like Jonny Rotten they'll be selling the metaphorical butter when the moneyman comes calling.

We can genuinely change withought even nessecarily needing to give in on wealth if we start to use our resources in truly the most optimal way trough the most effecient economic design possible, which imho is a matter of design trough engineering and knowledge of many other antropologicly relevant factors. and yet this is also somethign that has been known for a long time, indeed even Thorstein Veblen saw the inherit engineering fault with the consumerist economy when it just started to develop after world wars had pushed industrial technoligy to actually pretty rediculous output potential capacity already. And in more recent decades the Zeitgeist movement has done a lot to raise awareness about the key issues. And let me refer then to Peter Joseph for a good explenation as i know he would do it rather well and on the points that i would tend to support.

 

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