Scottish Football rejects major overhaul.

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With an 11-1 majority vote required of the SPL clubs for the "new" proposed structure of Scottish football to be passed for next season the proposals have been rejected after St Mirren and Ross County voted against it.

In summary (by the BBC) here's what the proposals were for:-

The SPL proposal is for a 12-12-18 structure;

Top two leagues to split into three leagues of eight after 22 matches, then play a further seven home and seven away games

Leagues will be called Premier Division, Championship and National League

Top eight teams to play for title and European places; middle eight to contest promotion and relegation in and out of Premier Division; bottom eight to decide who drops into National League
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So, where does this leave Scottish football? The status quo is the answer, and the status quo is a failing system with no money and no interest from many supporters, or from anyone able to pump money into the game.
 
To be fair the proposed changes would have done little. It would still have left an 12 team top division with a split in fixtures.

Unless something can be done about Celtic (and Newco Rangers assuming that they come back) whatever structure you put in place will have no real effect. Shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic comes to mind. The financial gap between teams that can get crowds of 50,000-60,000 and others who struggle to get much above 10,000 (and 5,000 in some cases) is two wide to make a competitive league.

Imagine an English Premier League composed of the following:

Arsenal
Liverpool
Preston
Barnsley
Peterborough
Tranmere
Carlisle
Notts County
Oldham
Shrewsbury
Bournemouth
Brentford

How competitive would that one be?
 
The vote against seemed to be idiotic. The ST Mirren chairman's standpoint was basically "Why can't we take the good bits of this proposal and build on them?" despite beign told by virtually everyone else "This is it, this is the only solution, there's no Plan B". He seemed to want to, basically, hold everyone else over a barrel to get through things just he wanted. He managed to convince the Ross County chairman to vote with him and scupper the whole deal. The 11-1 voting system seems very strange, can you imagine the Premiership working on something so weighted towards such a small number of teams? It's like (actually worse than) us having an 18-2 vote, you'd never get anything decided and you'd be constantly held up by the leagues shitter sides who are likely not going to be in the top division much longer! Can you imagine QPR and Norwich being able to hold up a ground breaking vote in the Premiership on their own?!
 
I just find it strange where they currently have this cut off through a season and then the top teams play each other and the table looks weird with the 7th placed team having more points than the 6th placed team.
I saw on the news the other days the mass celebrations by Dundee Utd for coming 6th.

They just need a proper structure like we have and teams play twice so don't get bored of same old fixtures, home and away with 3 down, 2 up and playoffs. Nice and simple
 
Matty said:
The vote against seemed to be idiotic. The ST Mirren chairman's standpoint was basically "Why can't we take the good bits of this proposal and build on them?" despite beign told by virtually everyone else "This is it, this is the only solution, there's no Plan B". He seemed to want to, basically, hold everyone else over a barrel to get through things just he wanted. He managed to convince the Ross County chairman to vote with him and scupper the whole deal. The 11-1 voting system seems very strange, can you imagine the Premiership working on something so weighted towards such a small number of teams? It's like (actually worse than) us having an 18-2 vote, you'd never get anything decided and you'd be constantly held up by the leagues shitter sides who are likely not going to be in the top division much longer! Can you imagine QPR and Norwich being able to hold up a ground breaking vote in the Premiership on their own?!
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The Ross County had the decency to ask their fans for their opinions and voted accordingly.
The main stumbling block looks like the voting system.Who came up with that system where the minority get their way.Correct,the old firm.Greedy *****.
 
I know most on here disagree but I would welcome a British league where every club is apart of this.

The top clubs would fall into the top tiers ( Prem and championship) but lower leagues league one and two would split into North/South
Area leagues.

Would never happen as Scots can sell their seperate tv deal but would make the game far more interesting and would be easier for fans/clubs in the lower leagues playing more local sides
 
JGL07 said:
To be fair the proposed changes would have done little. It would still have left an 12 team top division with a split in fixtures.

Unless something can be done about Celtic (and Newco Rangers assuming that they come back) whatever structure you put in place will have no real effect. Shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic comes to mind. The financial gap between teams that can get crowds of 50,000-60,000 and others who struggle to get much above 10,000 (and 5,000 in some cases) is two wide to make a competitive league.

Imagine an English Premier League composed of the following:

Arsenal
Liverpool
Preston
Barnsley
Peterborough
Tranmere
Carlisle
Notts County
Oldham
Shrewsbury
Bournemouth
Brentford

How competitive would that one be?
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Wenger would be happy with top four as long as it meant Champions league football
 
JoeMercer'sWay said:
think the main sticking point was something to do with a 2 tier league where teams would drop down and play the best teams in the league below after the split.

Surely just a 14-14-14 structure would be simpler and just play each other 3 times.
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Don't you think the problem is that say celtic and Rangers in a few years are going for the title and celtic win it by 3 points because they got to play at home twice and once away and won the league on those 2 results.


leaves it up for corruption in my book.

would be good to get some sort of bigger league though 20 teams even if they are absolute shite just to start off they do need to change it in my opinion it is good for the top 2 becaus over the course of a league season you play eachother 4 times potentiall for a big swing in points either way
 
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