I've seen the video, time to cut their allocations across the country further. Absolute mutants.
In Scotland it is too much to ask for.Incredible refereeing. Allow play to go on and then Dessers finishes and then bizarrely blows for a ‘ghost’ foul. Got the right decision in the end but just poor officiating
Booked a Saints player for an accidental coming together. Then allows a Saints player to more or less grab Diomandes shirt off as he breaks forward.. no booking.
As I keep saying. We all just want consistency. Officials that understand the rules is maybe too much to ask for
I've seen the video, time to cut their allocations across the country further. Absolute mutants.
There's a possibility of some good PR here for Rangers. I'm sure a spot of investigative work by them would unearth the scum responsible for that attack. Inform the authorities, and ban them for life.They seem to have become more repulsive since the extinction event. The media have enabled the behaviour, never calling them out but other clubs are fair game.
They won’t do anything, they are above the rules and they know it. Hibs have acted quick to ban the arseholes in our support and there are plenty, but we have morals. Their fans openly display nazi symbols and nowt, not a peep.There's a possibility of some good PR here for Rangers. I'm sure a spot of investigative work by them would unearth the scum responsible for that attack. Inform the authorities, and ban them for life.
And yes; I'd say the same about City, or Celtic, or Timbuktoo Rovers.
Not to pile in on them here, because they do have some sound fans (no.8 on here seems a nice guy from what i have read), but their fans are proud to be British, and support Israel, but at the same time make Nazi salutes and have Nazi imagery on flags.They won’t do anything, they are above the rules and they know it. Hibs have acted quick to ban the arseholes in our support and there are plenty, but we have morals. Their fans openly display nazi symbols and nowt, not a peep.
The Onion Bears are neo Facist. You’re correct though, they combine that with supporting Israel and Jews, which shows how thick the bigoted cunts are. Of course they do this because if the Green Brigades support for the Palestinian plight. Did you see them in their Smurf uniforms? What a bunch of arseholes. Most of them are young, baw faced and ugly and can only really remember one league win. So their rage and ultra proddy staunch stance is a reaction to winning fuck all and facing another period of being also rans. They are lapped up by that famous small minority of Rangers fans who are ultra bigoted, latest stats, 80% who still resides in the 17th century.Not to pile in on them here, because they do have some sound fans (no.8 on here seems a nice guy from what i have read), but their fans are proud to be British, and support Israel, but at the same time make Nazi salutes and have Nazi imagery on flags.
They clearly aren't too clued up on history and politics.
I wish someone would make it make sense.
Yes, I am not going to get into the Celtic v Rangers thing, but it does seem like they started supporting Israel just to be different to Celtic as you are in favour of Palestine.The Onion Bears are neo Facist. You’re correct though, they combine that with supporting Israel and Jews, which shows how thick the bigoted cunts are. Of course they do this because if the Green Brigades support for the Palestinian plight. Did you see them in their Smurf uniforms? What a bunch of arseholes. Most of them are young, baw faced and ugly and can only really remember one league win. So their rage and ultra proddy staunch stance is a reaction to winning fuck all and facing another period of being also rans. They are lapped up by that famous small minority of Rangers fans who are ultra bigoted, latest stats, 80% who still resides in the 17th century.
I looked at the Sunday Mail and fuck all. If that was us, front page. Their fellow fans in the press and media, for they are legion, cover up for them. Always have. But every **** in Scotland know they are out on their own horrible bastard wise. Not even a contest. They have no songs that don’t contain hate. None that are sung anyway.
It shows you how they are feeling. Fucked, like their team. And that ain’t going to change any day soon.
I honestly don't think the Rangers fanbase as a whole is smart enough to think that deeply about it and make the connection.I could be wrong but the whole thing about Israel stems from the belief that Ulster Prods are gods chosen people. Which 99% of rangers fans aren’t, though as a direct descendant of the OG ulster prods I enjoy my special status.
Is it ever going to be possible to discuss the OF without politics or religion coming into it? Tragic clubs.
I am an atheist and have no truck with anyone believing utter nonsense. There were no riots here, but the UB were seen out walking, they love a walk. They are younger and extreme, both in religion and politics. They probably couldn’t point out Israel on a map. The majority of us support a better deal for the Palestinians, whilst, me at least don’t agree with the October atrack and accepted Israel had to respond. What I don’t agree with is the scale of the response snd no right minded person could. Only hate filled Nazi loving vermin. It’s all about a hate for the other, and why they hate us so much. That and having a team that Fucks up their superiority complex.again, ours.Yes, I am not going to get into the Celtic v Rangers thing, but it does seem like they started supporting Israel just to be different to Celtic as you are in favour of Palestine.
By the way my own take on Israel-Palestine is a moderate one. I tend to take a moderate stance on some topics and I tend to be a humanist, and I think in the sense there are innocent and guilty people on both sides. Those innocent people just want it to stop. But I think about it in those terms. The Rangers fans who support Israel haven't considered why and, as you and I say, it seems basically like a 'you do this and we do the opposite' sort of thing. It is very childish.
The Union Bears do seem like horrible scumbags, and many of them seem young, yes. It's really not on that they're not being charged with stuff, or at least banned from Ibrox for life.
As for me, I am not religious. I don't care about Protestant, Catholic segments of Christianity, or Islam, or anything. I flit between being agnostic and atheist depending on how firm and bold I am feeling at a certain time. I have no problem if someone finds solace and meaning in religion. But the religious hatred among the Old Firm fans is something I don't understand, especially as many are non-practicing. It's just awful that it is happening in the 21st century.
Celtic fans have a lot of problems too in that sense, but I would agree that Rangers fans are worse in general. But maybe that's because I lean a bit left of centre in some issues and definitely nowhere near right, so am repulsed by many of the things Rangers stand for.
I don’t like the walks on either side. It just keeps a wound open and divides people. Anybody that condems a whole group they don’t know is moronic. My best pal is a rangers man. I was married twice into Rangers families. My friend group comprises both. Great people. It’s the hardcore on both sides that sadden me. Anyway, let’s hope for a better situation with people stop being anrseholes over religion.Fair enough mate - like I say I don't lean either way (referring to your football points) I think you will continue to dominate but personally not bothered who wins the league as I dislike both clubs (you seem a good guy and I agree with you on some stuff so don't wanna argue with you cos I am more critical of Celtic than you are). As I said I would like to see someone else win it for a change outside of Rangers or Celtic, but that won't happen.
I agree with the stuff about Israel and Hamas. The reaction from Israel was bad. My overall point is that it's horrendous that innocent people are dying, thanks to the evil leaders and factions on both sides.
I do tend to take a more humanist view on it. There are good people - both Palestine and Israeli - who just want this all to stop.
I don't think orange or republican walks should be permitted in Scotland.
A significant section of the West Coast of Scotland has the reputation of being a very bigoted region re religion. Lads, lasses; it's the 21st century, FFS. Move on.I honestly don't think the Rangers fanbase as a whole is smart enough to think that deeply about it and make the connection.
And yeah, it is very very sad that politics and religion are still playing a part in all this. I don't know why it is so important to them and why they hate each other over it. But then, I am not one of them.
Yes I agree with you. Unfortunately it is too deeply ingrained into West of Scotland society now.I don’t like the walks on either side. It just keeps a wound open and divides people. Anybody that condems a whole group they don’t know is moronic. My best pal is a rangers man. I was married twice into Rangers families. My friend group comprises both. Great people. It’s the hardcore on both sides that sadden me. Anyway, let’s hope for a better situation with people stop being anrseholes over religion.
What a bunch. Should be said that just because this happened to be caught on video, it happens weekly.
Zero self policing from their own support, same with sectarian abuse. It's all allowed to happen, promoted by the club and the media.
"Just listen to the atmosphere" was the commentary on sky sports after rangers scored against Celtic at Ibrox. At the time in question, the entire stadium was belting out being up to their knees in Fenian blood.
But it's only a minority....allegedly. aye right.
Falkirk is the same both teams.A significant section of the West Coast of Scotland has the reputation of being a very bigoted region re religion. Lads, lasses; it's the 21st century, FFS. Move on.
They seem to be stuck in some sort of 19th/20th century time warp. Even the north of this island I live on seems to have moved on (though, undoubtedly, there's still fuckwits around on both sides).Falkirk is the same both teams.
Not as bad as it was last century but still there hanging about like a bad smell.
Celebrations in Glasgow now when one of the teams wins something are an embarrassment to both clubs.
No idea how this practice started and allowed to continue.