Should Ref's Be Mic'ed up

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Like Rugby. Probably been mentioned before, but i can't see any real problem with it.

I know it was tried before, and they don't want to do it again, but hopefully this would shame some of the gobby (rags, Chelsea and Arsenal are main offenders) players into showing a bit more respect. They can obviously question the ref, but in the correct manner.

It may also help people understand some of the Ref's decisions, rather than guessing why he only gave a yellow or a red ect.

Who would be mostly opposed to this, players, FA or maybe the ref's themselves.
 
The trouble is it would introduce some degree of transparency into refereeing, that would never do. You'll often see them covering their mouths when speaking to avoid being being lip read on camera, they're actively trying to stop people knowing what has been said.
 
sweep said:
The trouble is it would introduce some degree of transparency into refereeing, that would never do. You'll often see them covering their mouths when speaking to avoid being being lip read on camera, they're actively trying to stop people knowing what has been said.
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Which seems a bit under hand. Why would you even need to do this. Transparency would benfit the ref's in my opinion, as to understand why certain offences have been dealt with in a certain way, helps the fan relate to the ref. Part of the anger at 'poor' Ref-ing decisions, is the not knowing the reason for a particular action/decision.
 
They should, it would help understand decisions or refs should at least give an interview at the end of the game. The problem with refs being mic'ed up is the language players use, you can see it clearly when they're shouting at the ref so you would be able to hear that.
 
Mikem93 said:
They should, it would help understand decisions or refs should at least give an interview at the end of the game. The problem with refs being mic'ed up is the language players use, you can see it clearly when they're shouting at the ref so you would be able to hear that.
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Not really a problem TBH, simply delay the 'live' broadcast by a couple of seconds (already happens to varying degrees anyway due to digital encoding, a couple more seconds doesn't make any difference), anyone swears audibly and it gets muted before broadcast.

You could also inform clubs that any player recorded swearing gets an instant red but then you're introducing consistency as well as transparency, that's just crazy talk.
 
sweep said:
Mikem93 said:
They should, it would help understand decisions or refs should at least give an interview at the end of the game. The problem with refs being mic'ed up is the language players use, you can see it clearly when they're shouting at the ref so you would be able to hear that.
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Not really a problem TBH, simply delay the 'live' broadcast by a couple of seconds (already happens to varying degrees anyway due to digital encoding, a couple more seconds doesn't make any difference), anyone swears audibly and it gets muted before broadcast.

You could also inform clubs that any player recorded swearing gets an instant red but then you're introducing consistency as well as transparency, that's just crazy talk.
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It would also hinder the offenders from generating massive endorsments for family/junior products if it was broadcast that they continually abuse the ref at any decison against them.
 
sweep said:
Mikem93 said:
They should, it would help understand decisions or refs should at least give an interview at the end of the game. The problem with refs being mic'ed up is the language players use, you can see it clearly when they're shouting at the ref so you would be able to hear that.
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Not really a problem TBH, simply delay the 'live' broadcast by a couple of seconds (already happens to varying degrees anyway due to digital encoding, a couple more seconds doesn't make any difference), anyone swears audibly and it gets muted before broadcast.

You could also inform clubs that any player recorded swearing gets an instant red but then you're introducing consistency as well as transparency, that's just crazy talk.
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The problem there lies in the amount of different nationalities in the league and the amount of foreign countries the league is broadcast to. For example 12.45 kickoff and some French or Spanish speaking player goes off on one and swears to his heart is content more than likely won't get picked up by whoever is meant to take it out then it gets broadcast and lots of kids in France Spain or wherever speaks that language hears the earful sitting down to a midday lunch. An interview with the ref straight after the game before even managers do there's, fans get the explanation and managers then get a right of reply to say if they agree with the refs take. Hopefully would get rid of some of the nonsense bans and fines that managers get and people can speak more freely of there thought of what the refeere actually gave decisions for
 
I trust Rugby Refs more than Football refs.... football refs come across as sly bastards which is why i can't see this being introduced...

Although it should be introduced, it would also heighten just how much influence the big named English stars have over referee's.

if rooney came swearing at me like that he'd have my whistle shoved down his throat, why are they so starstruck?
 
Clubber said:
Like Rugby. Probably been mentioned before, but i can't see any real problem with it.

I know it was tried before, and they don't want to do it again, but hopefully this would shame some of the gobby (rags, Chelsea and Arsenal are main offenders) players into showing a bit more respect. They can obviously question the ref, but in the correct manner.

It may also help people understand some of the Ref's decisions, rather than guessing why he only gave a yellow or a red ect.

Who would be mostly opposed to this, players, FA or maybe the ref's themselves.
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Well if you want your 5yr old kid to learn some of the worse words in the english language then mic them up
 
BoyBlue_1985 said:
Clubber said:
Like Rugby. Probably been mentioned before, but i can't see any real problem with it.

I know it was tried before, and they don't want to do it again, but hopefully this would shame some of the gobby (rags, Chelsea and Arsenal are main offenders) players into showing a bit more respect. They can obviously question the ref, but in the correct manner.

It may also help people understand some of the Ref's decisions, rather than guessing why he only gave a yellow or a red ect.

Who would be mostly opposed to this, players, FA or maybe the ref's themselves.
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Well if you want your 5yr old kid to learn some of the worse words in the english language then mic them up
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I think they should bring it in and hand out fines. To be honest there should be no back chat to refs like in Rugby the only person who should talk to the ref is the captain. It would be a great thing to see also bring in the tv tech as well.

Regarding the kids it all bollocks they pick up on everything people say granted and it might not be from watching football. It could well be from there parents or family these things happen. Also the way people use it it is a throw away word now and does not mean a lot now a days. Heres 1 try to go a day without cursing it cant be done.
 
BoyBlue_1985 said:
Well if you want your 5yr old kid to learn some of the worse words in the english language then mic them up
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Stated earlier in the thread, we have the ability to bleep out the offending word due to the digital time delay.

Also, each country these games are distributed to would also have the ability to censor the in the same way in their country.

We live in an age where this is quite a straight forward and easy thing to set up. The organising bodies talk a lot about respecting the ref, yet they don't implement anything to enforce it, or show the true extent of dissent they have to put up with from people on the pitch. If the refs don't want it, they need to give a good reason why, as it shouldn't affect their performance.
 
In a clean game, yes.

As the prem is bent as fook it will never happen. How much incitement would come from Clattenberg having a laugh with shrek or Walton with a scouser?

I would welcome it, somehow i could never see it.
 
This was done back in 1989 when David Elleray was mic'ed up for an Arsenal game in which Tony Adams famously effed 'n jeffed all day long at him and called him a cheat.

Works well in Rugby but that a different ball game (ho ho ho). Refs in the premier league have no backbone and the players have no repsect for them. Always baffles me that if you do a Nani-esque double flip and roll with a girly shreek after no contact in a sunday leauge game your told not to be a twat and get on with it yet if you swear at a ref your off/cautioned without hesitation where as in the permiership these wallys fall for every bit of simulation and reguarly take gobs fulls of abuse from Shrek et al without any retribution. Stinks.
 
The players would soon stop swearing at the refs if they were sent off for it on a consistent basis. I admit the issue of foreign languages is a problem with this though, refs can't possibly have a full grasp of all the languages spoken.

I don't see why they can't mic the refs but keep it off the public broadcast. That way each game could be reviewed afterwards and any errors made could be dealt with/punished as appropriate.

Of course first you'd have to get the corruption out of football administration - the Second Coming of Christ will probably happen first.
 
I think it's a great idea in principal, but as already mentioned both Rugby codes have a completely different attitude to referees.

I've seen countless televised games of RL where the ref's give a decision and the offending player has come over, foaming at the mouth and the ref simply says "don't swear- I'm miked up" and the player hasn't!

Can you see that in football with thick, pentulant twats like Wooney and Gerrard?

Unfortunately not.
 
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