Sick of minutes silence/applause at football matches

It's the same with everything nowadays. You've got to performatively show you care of everyone will jump down your throat. Actually doing anything to help is still only optional though.

I follow a comedy channel on Instagram, and the guy is from a Muslim background, and he shared some of the comments he got for not 'using his platform' to highlight the situation in Gaza. The irony was that he had been.
 
jimharri said:
And, of course, another one coming up in a couple of weeks' time, remembrance sunday. Which is one of the more appropriate ones.
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See this is the problem though. Everyone thinks their favourite one is valid and all of the others are a waste of time. Personally, I'd stick to only stuff related to football. Ex-football people who have died. Anti-racism in football messages. That sort of thing.

The reality is that football has the biggest platform of almost anything in the world, so literally every cause will jump on it to promote themselves if they can.
 
give it to gordon said:
Am I just becoming a bitter FOC ?

Is the world becoming a worse place every day ?

Go back a decade or so and a minutes silence was rare. As was black armbands. It meant something.

Yesterday Spurs and Fulham had black armbands on. I have no idea who had passed away from one of those clubs.

City on Saturday a minutes silence for a war, than 3 minutes clapping for Francis Lee than taking the knee.
What a fucking joke I went to the Etihad to watch a football game and to pay my respects to one of our own.

Now reading that utd intend to do a minutes silence at their next 2 games for Charlton. Yet City put Francis Lee in the middle of two events that have nothing to do with City or me.

Its getting out of hand.

Football seems to want to get political now, which I dont like.

5 knobheads sing about Chalton and get shit thrown at them ( fair enough ) but nothing is said about liz is in her box by the dippers etc.

I am getting sick to death of this minutes silence for this and that. Can I just watch a football match ? No problem with a minute silence for one of own.
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I'm pretty sure the black armbands last night will have been for Bobby Charlton, despite him having nothing to do with either club.

I'd like to understand what makes the difference, why Bobby gets this respect across all matches yet Franny just gets something at City.

Is it because of about 80 caps difference? If so, what's the cut off? What if Franny had 70 caps? Would that be enough?

Or is it because he was one of the World Cup winners? Not sure we've had this level of respect shown for all of that team.

Or is it just because of some other factor?

The proliferation of applauding fans who have died seems similar in some ways to the fans with signs asking for a player's shirt. People seem to think because they support the club they deserve it (and you could argue that in some special cases they do). And then others see it on TV or social media and want to do the same but nobody wants to draw a line in the sand to say that ones ok but that one isn't.
 
Talking of which, a minutes silence tonight at old toilet for Sir Bobby (next home game) so why have another on Sunday?? How many are they having? One for each competition? Next one against the bar codes - league cup??
 
give it to gordon said:
Am I just becoming a bitter FOC ?

Is the world becoming a worse place every day ?

Go back a decade or so and a minutes silence was rare. As was black armbands. It meant something.

Yesterday Spurs and Fulham had black armbands on. I have no idea who had passed away from one of those clubs.

City on Saturday a minutes silence for a war, than 3 minutes clapping for Francis Lee than taking the knee.
What a fucking joke I went to the Etihad to watch a football game and to pay my respects to one of our own.

Now reading that utd intend to do a minutes silence at their next 2 games for Charlton. Yet City put Francis Lee in the middle of two events that have nothing to do with City or me.

Its getting out of hand.

Football seems to want to get political now, which I dont like.

5 knobheads sing about Chalton and get shit thrown at them ( fair enough ) but nothing is said about liz is in her box by the dippers etc.

I am getting sick to death of this minutes silence for this and that. Can I just watch a football match ? No problem with a minute silence for one of own.
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Football should only be about football or things associated with the football.

There are 32 armed conflicts in the world at the moment, what the fuck are we having minute’s silence for that Israel:Palestine shite at a football match like we did on Saturday? It’s got fuck all to do with footy.

Why the fuck are we having political stances like that taking-the-knee shite (that started after some randomer was killed by some random police force in some random other country, that sort of thing goes on hundreds of times a week around the world)?Les Ferdinand and Wilfred Zaha are right with their thoughts on that.

If I really cared about any of that stuff, I’d be a busy **** about it in the rest of my spare time. I’m only bothered about football things when I’m at the football. It was a disgrace to our club legend, Franny Lee, that we had a minutes applause for him sandwiched between a silence for one of many wars going on and some nonsense political gesture. It should only have been about Franny on Saturday.

I also feel the same about applause for fans that have died. We have hundreds of fans die a year yet we don’t have an applause for all of them despite each one of them being as close to someomes’ heart as anyone else who’s died. We have an end of year minute’s silence for them all, leave the tributes at the football for those people until then.
 
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Fred_Quimby said:
Talking of which, a minutes silence tonight at old toilet for Sir Bobby (next home game) so why have another on Sunday?? How many are they having? One for each competition? Next one against the bar codes - league cup??
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I don’t mind that. He’s their biggest ever legend, it is football related. Let them have one midweek and one at weekend, there will be different people at each, it’s on different channels so both stations will want to have their input to a football legend around tributes to him, a World Cup winner (arguably the best player for England in that WC win).

I’ve no problem with that.

Bringing conflict, wars and political shit into football I have a big problem with, I don’t want any part of any of that coming into football.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
I don’t mind that. He’s their biggest ever legend, it is football related. Let them have one midweek and one at weekend, there will be different people at each, it’s on different channels so both stations will want to have their input to a football legend around tributes to him, a World Cup winner (arguably the best player for England in that WC win).

I’ve no problem with that.

Bringing conflict, wars and political shit into football I have a big problem with, I don’t want any part of any of that coming into football.
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I thought Best was their biggest legend, or Duncan Edwards, no Cantona ?????????
 
mattcity5 said:
I'm pretty sure the black armbands last night will have been for Bobby Charlton, despite him having nothing to do with either club.

I'd like to understand what makes the difference, why Bobby gets this respect across all matches yet Franny just gets something at City.

Is it because of about 80 caps difference? If so, what's the cut off? What if Franny had 70 caps? Would that be enough?

Or is it because he was one of the World Cup winners? Not sure we've had this level of respect shown for all of that team.

Or is it just because of some other factor?

The proliferation of applauding fans who have died seems similar in some ways to the fans with signs asking for a player's shirt. People seem to think because they support the club they deserve it (and you could argue that in some special cases they do). And then others see it on TV or social media and want to do the same but nobody wants to draw a line in the sand to say that ones ok but that one isn't.
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Nearly all of that world cup winning team has had significant coverage. Bobby Charlton was much more widely known than Franny, who still had several articles on BBC sport and was covered by all media outlets. If Franny had won the World Cup he'd have had a similar scale to Bobby. Franny was very good, but he wasn't one of the best English players ever like Bobby either.

The general point being made I am in agreement on. You diminish the impact of a minutes silence or a show of respect if you do it for everything. Back in the day I remember there being the annual commemoration for City fans/former players at the last home game of the year. The remembrance weekend silence, but nothing beyond that. I said in the Bobby Charlton thread, last weekend should have been all about Franny. The premier league should not be doing anything for the war in Israel/Gaza. That's nothing to do with football. The FA did their bit with the England game, that was enough. We should have been able to properly see off a club legend, it's a real travesty we didn't. His friends and family must have been very disappointed with the club's efforts last weekend. They should have fucked off the PL if they were forcing a minute's silence. We had to do a minute's applause just to differentiate the two. It should have been Franny first, with videos of his best moments with the club and tributes from buzzer and other legends and then a minute's silence if they had to do it.
 
Just when we thought it couldn't get any worse, we increasingly have world events being marked.

These pre match gestures have lost their meaning. Right before kick off really kills the atmosphere.

When i last mentioned taking the knee wasn't having the impact it once did i was accused of racism.
And that's the thing nowadays. Express any opinion and somebody will accuse you of being anti to it.
I thought taking the knee was just for the first match of the season this year. So i was glad to see it and thought it will be a great reminder and will have a better impact.. But no, it seems it is staying.

This minute silence/applause almost every week is the same.
Somebody famous/attached to the club will die every week. So who decides their death was more/less important?
Last match of the year is the best place for it.

I have no problem with the black armband. The individual can express their own personal grief without making others join in. But i do feel sometimes players are forced to wear them. Those choosing to not wear them probably get grief for it.

If they have to do these things, then why not do them 15 mins before kick off? (announced through the media before the match)
Then we could see who is really bothered about them by coming early.

Doing it almost every kick off just pisses me off!
 
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