Around £45m for the three? Don't know much about Paulinho but he's rated as highly as Ramires, who I like a lot, by many. Would sanction such moves in a second, question is, who leaves? Would probably need to shift at least one centre-mid permanently.LoveCity said:
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LoveCity said:Ray78 said:Pam said:We honestly need a couple of signings to boost morale and freshen things up. We're going backwards for some reason. Change something.
Easy said than done Pam as January is a difficult month for transfers.
Unless you trigger reasonable buyout clauses. Benat, Isco, and Paulinho - all linked to us - have pretty low release clauses. Paulinho's is apparently close to £11million. It makes the selling club helpless if you take that route.
Both Benat and Paulinho are achievable but Isco we can forget for now as he wants to finish the job with Malaga. If we get Isco, I will hold my hands up.
r.soleofsalford
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riley347 said:spending resrictions in January and lose title...lose Mario and Garcia in January, bring in fat frank,de rossi and david villa and retain it....
villa is 31 and would sit on our bench.
fat frank is 34 and would get a game occasionally
if we can get them both on a free and not on rediculous wages.
then all you have to do is convince them to warm the bench
kun
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This is quite possibly true although the amount of possibly available strikers better than bent are enormous. Llorente, Villa, Walcott, Sturridge (not for much longer), Defoe, Callejon, Drogba, Anelka, Gameiro, Remy etcjakeashto6 said:Ray78 said:jakeashto6 said:is it just me who'd have darren bent?
Just you.
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in all seriousness though, our strikers are under-performing. we NEED a striker, even if it means getting rid of dzeko or balo.
of course everyone wants falcao but the main reason i said bent is because he's proven in the prem, only reason he isnt playing now is lambert doesnt want him.
I can't help feeling that Balo is the key here, whether he stays or goes. A temporary swap deal might be better than nothing. But if he is to stay, we need to make bloody sure he's pulling his weight and being left off the bench suggests to me that there is a training issue, no matter how many excuses we make about phantom injuries and injuries. Earn your corn, Mario!
MSP
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How could someone sane suggest and think there is a single chance Garcia could bee sold in January after being at club for 4 months, 1 at least injury sidelined.
Pam said:I can't help feeling that Balo is the key here, whether he stays or goes. A temporary swap deal might be better than nothing. But if he is to stay, we need to make bloody sure he's pulling his weight and being left off the bench suggests to me that there is a training issue, no matter how many excuses we make about phantom injuries and injuries. Earn your corn, Mario!
I was thinking the same thing at the start of the season but time is rapidly running out for Balotelli and I don't think he will change. In my opinion signing a striker in this window will be counterproductive and I reckon we should keep the faith with what we have got until the Summer.
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jakeashto6 said:Ray78 said:jakeashto6 said:is it just me who'd have darren bent?
Just you.
:(
in all seriousness though, our strikers are under-performing. we NEED a striker, even if it means getting rid of dzeko or balo.
of course everyone wants falcao but the main reason i said bent is because he's proven in the prem, only reason he isnt playing now is lambert doesnt want him.
Not in this window as it will backfire big time with us. Bent will want First Team action and will not get it warming the bench at City.<br /><br />-- Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:08 pm --<br /><br />
MSP said:How could someone sane suggest and think there is a single chance Garcia could bee sold in January after being at club for 4 months, 1 at least injury sidelined.
I am slightly nuts but I agree with you post.
Pam said:It is not about Garcia, its about our misfiring strikers. And we've missed Nasri these last two games, which is something I never thought I'd say. Is he back in training yet, BTW?
Just keep the faith with what we have got. I don't know, I guess we will find out tomorrow when they return to training.
Ray78 said:LoveCity said:Ray78 said:Easy said than done Pam as January is a difficult month for transfers.
Unless you trigger reasonable buyout clauses. Benat, Isco, and Paulinho - all linked to us - have pretty low release clauses. Paulinho's is apparently close to £11million. It makes the selling club helpless if you take that route.
Both Benat and Paulinho are achievable but Isco we can forget for now as he wants to finish the job with Malaga. If we get Isco, I will hold my hands up.
we can pay his buy-out clause and let him to stay at malaga until the summer...simple
Why are you Guehi?
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LoveCity said:i♥city! said:Sell Balo - Give Guidetti some playtime
Loan Garcia to Betis (with a full ownership option in favour of Betis) - Use Balo's money to Bring in Benat, Should Betis agree to sign Garcia then we could recover at least half the amount we spent on him , IF we are lucky.
Sell Kolarov - Add a little more to the amount gotten from Kolarov and bring in Isco (We need at least 3 creative midfielders , should Nasri or Silva get Injured then Isco can fill the void )
Sell Lescott + Kolo - Bring in Sakho from PSG , Nasty's a great defender but his lack of confidence and inexperience has cost us , We shouldn't rush nasty's development , he is one for the future and would need time (at least 2 more seasons) to mature into a good CB , Sakho is a more dominant and rugged CB and would be a great addition to the back line.
Well considering the fact that we are after one of their players it could seem like a good move to compensate them with Garcia , besides why keep him here when we all know he isn't good enough to play for a top PL team , Paulinho or Benat would be coming in (Lets not forget Milner also does a better job than JG) and its certain that Garcia has little or no future here.You make transfers sound so easy, haven't the last few years shown you how hard it is for us in the market because of the wages we pay players? Betis are in crippling debt so if we loaned them Garcia, like we loaned them Santa Cruz, we'd be paying 90-100% of his wages.We might as well keep him in that case, he is improving and may become a good player for us but even if he doesn't, what is the point of giving him to a club and paying his wages when he has a role in the squad (unlike Santa Cruz)? Betis would never be able to buy Garcia and even if they could afford the transfer fee probably could afford about 15% of his wages which he would not accept.
If we sold Kolarov surely we should replace him but you don't list an alternative and say we should use the money to buy a playmaker. The Balotelli money would go towards a player like Isco I imagine. We'd need a secondary left-back because Rekik is not a natural left-back and our only others after Clichy are Jeremy Helan (not good enough probably) and Vlad Marin (haven't seen him yet but he's only just started with the EDS).
We don't need a "like for like" replacement for Kolarov , We already have 2 players who are better in the position (Zab + Clichy) , When Maicon / Richards returns then we could rotate Zab and Clichy in that position , there's no need to buy another player for that spot , The money gotten from Kolarov should be used to strengthen weak positions
As for the last point when should we sell Kolo? He is off to Africa this month and his contract runs out in 6 months. So we will release him for free and get no funds for him. And how has Nasty's "lack of confidence and experience cost us"? What lack of confidence? He is one of the most composed defenders I've seen and has made fewer mistakes than Kompany. Sakho is good but is not a ball-playing defender and Mancini seems to not rate Lescott for the very reason he's not great with the ball at his feet. The Sakho rumour came and went, the defenders the club are really scouting seem to be Pedro Franco and Kurt Zouma (been on the radar for ages now).
At the moment Nasty is inexperienced and lacks the physical strength and presence needed to perfect the back line , His weakness was exposed in the CL and recently when we played Newcastle away , the goal newcastle pulled back could have been prevented if Nasty knew more about defensive positioning and stayed in his spot , same with the First goal we conceded against the rags , Nasty was once again out of place. A defender like Sakho would be a huge boost to our defense and would be the perfect defensive partner for Kompany, Don't get me wrong Nasty is a good defender but i still think he needs time to mature , he is one for the future.
The player you weren't sure on, Scott Sinclair, would actually be easier for us to sell than almost all of those. Lower wages and clubs like Fulham, QPR, and Everton would probably be able to give us our money back while matching his wages. And Rodwell doesn't need to go anywhere, he is a good prospect but needs to stay fit.
I'm not writing them off i just think we should send them on loan or cash in on one of them and then keep the other, preferably sinclair out , rodwell stays.
sergiokun
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We must bring someone in January most likely CM with Yaya going